Masturbation- is it wrong?

by **Hitman079** on Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:49 pm

The1exile wrote:Most certainly not, heretic!

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there's an article there as a proposal for christian porn also -_-

by **AndrewLC** on Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:49 pm

by **Hitman079** on Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:53 pm

AndrewLC wrote:

ANDREW! YOU QUIT THAT THIS INSTANT YOUNG MAN!
i could just hear your mother saying that

by **AndrewLC** on Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:54 pm

Sorry, but I'm past the point of no return!

by **b.k. barunt** on Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:24 pm

My son asked me one day if the Bible said that masturbation was wrong. I said no, because it has nothing whatsoever to say about masturbation. I then asked him if the Bible had anything to say about lustful thoughts, and was he able to masturbate without entertaining such. I can't myself, so i've been punished with failing eyesight and hairy palms.

by **Vincent M** on Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:26 pm

by **hecter** on Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:12 pm

He he... What do I see after masturbating? THIS! Masturbation is A OK in my book! And Vincent, VERY funny :lol:

by **ParadiceCity9** on Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:27 pm

whoever said yes is gay

by **s.xkitten** on Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:40 pm

ParadiceCity9 wrote:whoever said yes is gay

1) being gay does not change whether or not you masturbate...
2) if they believe masturbation is an affront to god, like hell they'd be gay...its worse the masturbation...

by **Hitman079** on Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:37 pm

i'm the one who voted yes.
thanks for defending me sxkitten

i'm deeply ashamed of it though, and i only admit it here since you are all people i don't know..

by **OnlyAmbrose** on Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:48 pm

Hitman079 wrote:i'm the one who voted yes.
thanks for defending me sxkitten
i'm deeply ashamed of it though, and i only admit it here since you are all people i don't know..

That's nothing to be ashamed of. Most of the people who think masturbation is fine also think that gay marriage is fine, so if one minority sexual preference is fine, why shouldn't this one be?

I personally think it's very wrong. I've done it, and probably will in the future, and I have been, and will be in the future, very ashamed of it. But I'm not ashamed of being ashamed of it, if that makes sense at all.

I voted yes.

by **s.xkitten** on Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:19 pm

so...i would rather not turn this into a debate...i'm just curious why its against god...

by **Skittles!** on Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:52 pm

I'm curious as to why you put 'God' with 'Yes'. Many people that aren't Christians don't masturbate, so why did you put god with it?

They're not going to go "hey, we're not Christians, and because we don't like God, we're gonna masturbate -snickering laughter-"

by **b.k. barunt** on Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:55 pm

Like i said, there's nothing in the Bible that says anything about masturbation. It's not mentioned - period. If it were important to God, i imagine he would have mentioned it. Any of you CC "Jesus Freaks" may correct me if i missed something.

by **Hitman079** on Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:00 am

the option in yes is what i think of it. that's all. i'm a self-proclaimed Christian yet i still jack it. it's just a little add-on, just like how "it's natural" complements the "no" option

by **MeDeFe** on Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:38 am

Vincent M wrote:

*Saves this on hardddrive*

by **chessplaya** on Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:24 am

WOOOOW nice piece of paper !!!

by **MR. Nate** on Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:52 am

b.k. barunt wrote:My son asked me one day if the Bible said that masturbation was wrong. I said no, because it has nothing whatsoever to say about masturbation. I then asked him if the Bible had anything to say about lustful thoughts, and was he able to masturbate without entertaining such. I can't myself, so i've been punished with failing eyesight and hairy palms.

b.k. barunt wrote:Like i said, there's nothing in the Bible that says anything about masturbation. It's not mentioned - period. If it were important to God, i imagine he would have mentioned it. Any of you CC "Jesus Freaks" may correct me if i missed something.

For the most part, your on the right track, BK. Leviticus essentially makes men ceremonially unclean for emissions, but the same goes for women on their periods, and there's not sin offering, so no sin is involved.

The lust thing is where the trouble is. It's pretty clear that lust is sin, both from the OT, and from the words of Jesus. So masturbation in the most common sense, by oneself and looking at porn, would be sin, because there is certainly lust involved.

I'd like to add though, that it seems that within the confines of marriage, pretty much anything goes. The Bible makes it pretty clear that sex is designed, in part, to enhance the bond between married couples. So as long as sexual activity remains between husband and wife, whatever floats their boat is game.

As to "is it natural?" it seems like a ridiculous question. Lots of unacceptable things are natural, and lots of great things are unnatural. Whatever "natural" means, it is horrible as a moral guide.

by **Stopper** on Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:23 pm

Never thought I'd do this for a Christian, but

MR. Nate wrote:As to "is it natural?" it seems like a ridiculous question. Lots of unacceptable things are natural, and lots of great things are unnatural. Whatever "natural" means, it is horrible as a moral guide.

QFT.

Now, you just need to tell the rest of the world.

by **b.k. barunt** on Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:03 pm

I think that the CC "Jesus Freaks" should pay attention to Mr. Nate.

by **Hitman079** on Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:14 pm

MR. Nate wrote:The lust thing is where the trouble is. It's pretty clear that lust is sin, both from the OT, and from the words of Jesus. So masturbation in the most common sense, by oneself and looking at porn, would be sin, because there is certainly lust involved.

so masturbating when i don't feel like it won't make it a sin? when will lust NOT be involved then?

by **Anarkistsdream** on Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:15 pm

I don't masturbate people... I just call all of your mothers and she'll do it for free... Sometimes, she even bakes me cookies so I can eat while she works.