yorkiepeter wrote:vtmarik wrote:
Where does it end?
Censorship for the sake of censorship is wrong.
Censorship for the sake of protecting "the children" is worse.
Come on, are you suggesting porn and violent movies should be seen by children?
My point was simply this. A responsible parent would not approve of their children being faced with the tirant of abuse and foul language on this site. I mean phrases like 'your mom takes it up the ass, or she sucks my dick everynight' If this sort of behaviour was censored would it really infringe one's rights?
On the face of it a responsible parent would see this site and just simply think that their child is playing on line games, unaware of the sort of abuse this site allows. I mean really would you like your kid being exposed to that sort of talk?
Until it is outlawed by lack and enforced by the mods then my kid will not be allowed access to this site.
....and really its not too difficult, if someone complains to the mods all they have to do is look at the game/post and if found unacceptable take appropriate action of either suspension or a ban on posting or using in game chat.
In disucssion with Andy today, I made the point that any complaints should be warned; but I do not believe that foul language should be bannable offense. Eventually, children WILL learn.
The system they use is, "use your foelist" but that only works if you know in advance who's going to be THAT crude.
But.. Admin's response seems to continuously be, "ignore it, because we are."
Andy Dufresne - in a pm today wrote:A system where "any complaint gets a warning" is not a proper system, as not every complaint is a legitmate complaint. Just like not every reported post is actually breaking the rules.
Well.. really, it depends on how you interpret the rules.
Rules - Guidelines wrote:Flames are posts or parts of posts which, directly or indirectly, insult, belittle, bully, name-call, or otherwise attack another user is not allowed."
Under those rules, a flame about sexual activity with someone's mother or the player him (her)self could be considered insulting, belittleing, or indirectly attacking the other player. Calling a player a fucking retard could be considered insulting and direct attack.
Players may lose their tempers; if punishments acknowledged that, but SOME discipline (warning, repeated short vacas for repeated offenses) rather than NO discipline might curb some of the extremes. When extremes begin getting curbed, others might just exercise their right of free speech to curb their own speech. Good can become habit every bit as much as foul can become habit.
But it requires the admin to require their moderating team to address 'grey areas' on the side of the complainer, rather than the original poster. If punishments for verbiage didn't escalate to bans, well, gee, the moderator teams just MIGHT be willing to do the lesser disciplines rather than, "use foelist."
