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Postby cairnswk on Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:39 am

Kaplowitz wrote:Yes, but only because Halloween's my birthday. Plus, its kinda dark.

well kaplowitz...its my work anniversary at my current job, but congrats for the 31st when it rolls around. :)
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Postby cairnswk on Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:40 am

Coleman wrote:First map of yours I haven't liked. :(

Coleman....i am sooooooooo disappointed. LOL
Seriously though, what do and don't u like.
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Postby cairnswk on Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:42 am

gimil wrote:
Coleman wrote:First map of yours I haven't liked. :(


coleman its those painkillers, dont let them get the better of you!

another point cairns maybe some starts in the sky would be nice. Maybe a full moon with some clouds in front.


yes gimil....i'm hearing you... i will move something that way next version.
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Postby Coleman on Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:43 am

cairnswk wrote:Seriously though, what do and don't u like.

I don't like how ugly it is, I don't like the theme, I don't like the organization of territories, I don't like the names of territories, I don't like how confusing it is.

I do like the name.
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Postby cairnswk on Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:49 am

Coleman wrote:
cairnswk wrote:Seriously though, what do and don't u like.

I don't like how ugly it is, I don't like the theme, I don't like the organization of territories, I don't like the names of territories, I don't like how confusing it is.

Mmmmmm, that's a big bunch of don't likes. Sorry, but sounds like u a in a horrible mood. :cry:

I do like the name.
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Postby Coleman on Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:00 pm

cairnswk wrote:
Coleman wrote:
cairnswk wrote:Seriously though, what do and don't u like.

I don't like how ugly it is, I don't like the theme, I don't like the organization of territories, I don't like the names of territories, I don't like how confusing it is.

Mmmmmm, that's a big bunch of don't likes. Sorry, but sounds like u a in a horrible mood. :cry:


You're fault, you asked, but I am actually in a good mood. I'm always in a good mood because I have happy pills.

I'll elaborate.

Ugliness
The colors are really jarring and contrast too much, so they hurt my eyes. This may be because of my happy pills though.

What I know I won't like 'sober' or not is the (wow it just got hard to type) the icons you have for each territory. I get they have to do with your clues or whatever, but could they be nicer looking? The Wishing Pouch & Wizard Hat are especially bad, and the magic wand doesn't go well with the color it is on top of.

Theme
With the title Halloween Hollows i was expecting something more calm and eerie, and occasionally jarring. Not Halloween Party on Acid. So I think the theme I'm seeing and the name contrast.

Territory Names
Skull Road....
Dragon Snout Heads...
Broomstick Base...

Confusing
If people can't handle things that are spelled out for them on the map how much frustration for the moderators will these riddles bring?

Blackwidow Roost looks disturbingly like it is required for nearly every continent. Major balance issues there if it is. Only one player gets some of those continents at any time? Seems a bit rough.

Organization of the Territories
Nearly every territory borders another continent's territories. With no clear defensive points except maybe the flying things as they have such flexibility, maybe, not understanding the riddle really. This looks like it will force players to steamroll constantly to have any success.

I Like The Name
The name created a lot of positive images for me, sadly none of them were realized here, but I still like the name.

Other
I wouldn't be nearly as critical of this map if it were just a holiday map. Not sure if we do that here, but maybe making maps for specific holidays that are only up the week before and after the holiday wouldn't be a bad idea.
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Postby cairnswk on Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:13 pm

Coleman wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
Coleman wrote:
cairnswk wrote:Seriously though, what do and don't u like.

I don't like how ugly it is, I don't like the theme, I don't like the organization of territories, I don't like the names of territories, I don't like how confusing it is.

Mmmmmm, that's a big bunch of don't likes. Sorry, but sounds like u a in a horrible mood. :cry:


You're fault, you asked, but I am actually in a good mood. I'm always in a good mood because I have happy pills.

I'll elaborate.

Ugliness
The colors are really jarring and contrast too much, so they hurt my eyes. This may be because of my happy pills though.

What I know I won't like 'sober' or not is the (wow it just got hard to type) the icons you have for each territory. I get they have to do with your clues or whatever, but could they be nicer looking? The Wishing Pouch & Wizard Hat are especially bad, and the magic wand doesn't go well with the color it is on top of.

Theme
With the title Halloween Hollows i was expecting something more calm and eerie, and occasionally jarring. Not Halloween Party on Acid. So I think the theme I'm seeing and the name contrast.

Territory Names
Skull Road....
Dragon Snout Heads...
Broomstick Base...

Confusing
If people can't handle things that are spelled out for them on the map how much frustration for the moderators will these riddles bring?

Blackwidow Roost looks disturbingly like it is required for nearly every continent. Major balance issues there if it is. Only one player gets some of those continents at any time? Seems a bit rough.

Organization of the Territories
Nearly every territory borders another continent's territories. With no clear defensive points except maybe the flying things as they have such flexibility, maybe, not understanding the riddle really. This looks like it will force players to steamroll constantly to have any success.

I Like The Name
The name created a lot of positive images for me, sadly none of them were realized here, but I still like the name.

Other
I wouldn't be nearly as critical of this map if it were just a holiday map. Not sure if we do that here, but maybe making maps for specific holidays that are only up the week before and after the holiday wouldn't be a bad idea.


Got your drift...remember it's only early days YET!
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Re: Halloween Hollows

Postby x.Grim Reaper.x on Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:21 pm

'cmon bring this map :o it looks sooooo coool :o


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Re: Halloween Hollows

Postby Coleman on Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:26 pm

x.Grim Reaper.x wrote:'cmon bring this map :o it looks sooooo coool :o


Greetzzz Tha x.Grim Reaper.x
I am shocked this guy likes this. :lol: :roll:

Cairns: I'm hoping the negative vibes you're probably getting from what I wrote don't distract you from taking it constructively. I do want to see the map improve.
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Star Wars

Postby volfan on Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:09 pm

Why not a Star Wars map? We have a Lord Of the Rings map. I don't know the territories that would be in there. But can one of you Star Wars fans come up with one? A map that is.
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Postby gimil on Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:16 pm

This has been suggested countless time mate
What do you know about map making, bitch?

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Why hasn't it come up?

Postby volfan on Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:17 pm

Why hasn't it come up?
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Postby gimil on Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:19 pm

because:

a. there copyright issues
b. anyone that starts one doesnt finish it
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Postby volfan on Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:20 pm

What about the Lord of the Rings board
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Postby gimil on Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:21 pm

There is already a lord of the rings board
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Postby volfan on Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:23 pm

How did it go through. Wasn't there copyright issues.
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Postby gimil on Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:26 pm

i don't know how it got through. Probably because it didn't use the copyright name of "The lord of the rings" But that map was before my time.
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Postby volfan on Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:28 pm

Oh. Any other names that can be used for Star Wars?
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Postby gimil on Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:38 pm

volfan wrote:Oh. Any other names that can be used for Star Wars?


personally if it wasnt called star wars i wouldnt bother playing it . . .

anything else would be cheap and nasty
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Postby volfan on Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:40 pm

True. Bad idea.
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Postby gimil on Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:41 pm

volfan wrote:Oh. Any other names that can be used for Star Wars?


personally if it wasnt called star wars i wouldnt bother playing it . . .

anything else would be cheap and nasty
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Re: Halloween Hollows

Postby cairnswk on Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:26 pm

Coleman wrote:
x.Grim Reaper.x wrote:'cmon bring this map :o it looks sooooo coool :o


Greetzzz Tha x.Grim Reaper.x
I am shocked this guy likes this. :lol: :roll:

Cairns: I'm hoping the negative vibes you're probably getting from what I wrote don't distract you from taking it constructively. I do want to see the map improve.


Coleman....thanks for those vibes....unfortunately not everyone likes everyone else's maps.....just so many negatives from you made me think you were in a good "horrible" mood....but they are constructives to a poiont...i just don't know how I may be able to to turn some of them for you....but i'll try, as I said the map is early days yet. VOTK started out much the same, i juist hope we don't have to go to 50 versions with this one.
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Re: Halloween Hollows

Postby cairnswk on Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:28 pm

x.Grim Reaper.x wrote:'cmon bring this map :o it looks sooooo coool :o
Greetzzz Tha x.Grim Reaper.x

Thanks for your post x.Grim Readper.x....keep watch, and do feel free to comment.
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Postby luv2tri2 on Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:49 pm

Love the idea of a halloween map! The problem I have with it is that is seems kinda childish and bland. Needs to be scarier and more evil looking. The continents are just not working. Maybe have a haunted forest and have sections of the forest be continents or a haunted house and the rooms be contients. Just my 2 cents which is worth $0.
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Postby cairnswk on Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:05 pm

luv2tri2 wrote:Love the idea of a halloween map! The problem I have with it is that is seems kinda childish and bland. Needs to be scarier and more evil looking. The continents are just not working. Maybe have a haunted forest and have sections of the forest be continents or a haunted house and the rooms be contients. Just my 2 cents which is worth $0.

Thanks for your post luv2tri2.
Of course everyone is not going to like this design, you're welcome to try another map with those design features, perhaps a Salem map would be of benefit.
I'm sure i'll get to some resolution on the continent thing, and as for it being childish, well, there is child in all of us, otherwise we wouldn't be playing RISK. :wink:
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