Dawn Of War Mafia. Town won. Woot. Finally

[kalishnikov]

Wow I had totally missed that. Repurge Mandy Basically you seem to fish for a claim that would be perfect for you to have if you actually were on Khorne's side. I can't get rid of the feeling you're backtracking and still playing us.

Fastposted by this (it took a real long time for me to write my last post, lol).

I agree ga7, I also kinda get that feeling, but that could just be the norm to feel like I'm being backtracked on lately, I'm not sure.

[ga7]

Analyzing Mandy's posts again...

Sound logic, if you are both unlychable and bulletproof. I never heard of this Psychic role before, but it sounds to fantastic to be anything but real.

FOS Spin for not unvoting

Er..I'm affraid that I'll have to turn-coat now.

Unpurge Purge Cena.

When I read his claim before, I missed the part about him recruiting masons.

So, he is Unlynchable, Immune to Night-kills, Psichyc (this part I buy because it sounds like a new role) and Recruiter?

I think that he is Khorne the naughty God and he is forming a Cult (which would mean that Orks are Mafia). I strongly advise lynching him. If we miss, I think that it we will still learn something. At least we will have a few very suspicius players (original Cena Bandwagoners, especially Spin who pushed on after the claim; and me for this post.)

Also, had you not been lying, you would be mod-killed for quoting your PM

Lynching game is on: If cena's corpse show's Pro-Town, we can check mine tommorow for further clues. (Also, since there have been a few idiotic Doc's in the past, if we lynch Cena and he is scum, PROTECT ME! Don't try to outbluff them. ).

Ok, basically I kinda buy the Psychic part of your role as you seemed to believe him before. But, you completely turned your coat from defending Cena all along to attacking him. I think this is related to the fact people were in disbelief and not unvoting, and you thought you might have a shot at him that way. You offered your head in case you were wrong. Now you have been, and instead of rightfully give it to us, you throw sparkly dust in our eyes.

First of all, I haven't unvoted Cena. I know that I should do it because of Skittles' post which confirms Cena's claim. However, bare in mind, if Cena has made a completly overpovered Evil God role (analog to Exile's God roles) Cena could have posted that scene himself (like a magic or comething).
It is more likely, though, that Scum tried to kill him and get my lynch in the same package, so unpurge. For now.

Now that the pressure is on you your defense is that crazy argument that there could be the same god system than in Aklaktlaklak mafia.
The fact you do not totally give up in your accusation that Cena is a bad guy when there's no reason left to do so, that you pop up with a third-party claim that conveniently doesn't go after Blood Ravens, and that wasn't remotely mentioned in the first place, makes me think we do have to take you up on that earlier offer: you were wrong about Cena, we don't need to wait tomorrow to lynch you.

[mandalorian2298]

Wow I had totally missed that. Repurge Mandy Basically you seem to fish for a claim that would be perfect for you to have if you actually were on Khorne's side. I can't get rid of the feeling you're backtracking and still playing us.

Interesting how you think that such a role might exists. Please don't tell me that you are Mafia with Cena, because, regardless of the result of Day 1, in the long run no Town could be stupid enough not to bust the both of yo through slowest possible investigate&lynch proceedure.


Kalish, I have very little knowledge about the Battle Hammer unverse. The stuff I know mostly comes from my PM (Orks bad, Eldars good).
You persistance on my lynch makes me further convinced that you are a Lyncher. Unlike Ga7 and Cena, you are covering neither your own nor somebody elses ass. You just want to lynch me.
On the other hand, you might simply be convinced that I am scum. There is one way to find out

In case that I'm not lynched today, and if Kalish's vote stays on me, could Vig please take me out tonight? That way we can move on from supecting me and (if Kalish really is a Lyncher) he doesn't win (good luck with surviving after my role is revealed, Kalish ).

[McSnipe]

Well, I'm still not sure we should get rid of Mandy at thid stage. he is experienced, and kiloing a possible power role is foolish. No, I say we Unpurge Purge: Spin for sheer n00bishness whilst we collate evidence on the others.

Also Cena, what does FOS mean? (Waits for "LOLZ N00b" storm)

[cena-rules]

Well, I'm still not sure we should get rid of Mandy at thid stage. he is experienced, and kiloing a possible power role is foolish. No, I say we Unpurge Purge: Spin for sheer n00bishness whilst we collate evidence on the others.

Also Cena, what does FOS mean? (Waits for "LOLZ N00b" storm)

finger of suspicion

its not a vote but its who you would vote

[mandalorian2298]

Ga7 analyzes my posts
Now that the pressure is on you your defense is that crazy argument that there could be the same god system than in Aklaktlaklak mafia.
The fact you do not totally give up in your accusation that Cena is a bad guy when there's no reason left to do so, that you pop up with a third-party claim that conveniently doesn't go after Blood Ravens, and that wasn't remotely mentioned in the first place, makes me think we do have to take you up on that earlier offer: you were wrong about Cena, we don't need to wait tomorrow to lynch you.

How about this then:

1. We lynch me today.
2. If I turn out to be Pro-Town, you agree to be lynched tommorow.
3. If you are scum, Cena is lynched next.

If you agree with this conditions, hell, I'll vote myself (and hope that Town isn't composed of total idiots who would buy a WIFOM defnes tommorow ).

[ga7]

Interesting how you think that such a role might exists. Please don't tell me that you are Mafia with Cena, because, regardless of the result of Day 1, in the long run no Town could be stupid enough not to bust the both of yo through slowest possible investigate&lynch proceedure.

Duh, it's not about whether the role exists or not. It's about saying that if someone has it he needs to out themselves. No matter how, I can't see why you would need that info if you were pro-town

[cena-rules]

Ga7 analyzes my posts
Now that the pressure is on you your defense is that crazy argument that there could be the same god system than in Aklaktlaklak mafia.
The fact you do not totally give up in your accusation that Cena is a bad guy when there's no reason left to do so, that you pop up with a third-party claim that conveniently doesn't go after Blood Ravens, and that wasn't remotely mentioned in the first place, makes me think we do have to take you up on that earlier offer: you were wrong about Cena, we don't need to wait tomorrow to lynch you.

How about this then:

1. We lynch me today.
2. If I turn out to be Pro-Town, you agree to be lynched tommorow.
3. If you are scum, Cena is lynched next.

If you agree with this conditions, hell, I'll vote myself (and hope that Town isn't composed of total idiots who would buy a WIFOM defnes tommorow ).

what do you have against me MY ROLES BEN PROVEN

unpurge purge mandy

[diddle]

Ga7 analyzes my posts
Now that the pressure is on you your defense is that crazy argument that there could be the same god system than in Aklaktlaklak mafia.
The fact you do not totally give up in your accusation that Cena is a bad guy when there's no reason left to do so, that you pop up with a third-party claim that conveniently doesn't go after Blood Ravens, and that wasn't remotely mentioned in the first place, makes me think we do have to take you up on that earlier offer: you were wrong about Cena, we don't need to wait tomorrow to lynch you.

How about this then:

1. We lynch me today.
2. If I turn out to be Pro-Town, you agree to be lynched tommorow.
3. If you are scum, Cena is lynched next.

If you agree with this conditions, hell, I'll vote myself (and hope that Town isn't composed of total idiots who would buy a WIFOM defnes tommorow ).

what do you have against me MY ROLES BEN PROVEN

unpurge purge mandy

not exactly

[ga7]

1. We lynch me today.
2. If I turn out to be Pro-Town, you agree to be lynched tommorow.
3. If you are scum, Cena is lynched next.

If you agree with this conditions, hell, I'll vote myself (and hope that Town isn't composed of total idiots who would buy a WIFOM defnes tommorow ).

And what makes you think my life is worth as much as yours?
Anyway, you already claimed something that is not town, with its own agenda. So

[mandalorian2298]

1. We lynch me today.
2. If I turn out to be Pro-Town, you agree to be lynched tommorow.
3. If you are scum, Cena is lynched next.

If you agree with this conditions, hell, I'll vote myself (and hope that Town isn't composed of total idiots who would buy a WIFOM defnes tommorow ).

And what makes you think my life is worth as much as yours?
Anyway, you already claimed something that is not town, with its own agenda. So

Unvote Vote Ga7

A pro-town would either accept my offer or stop suspecting me. A pro-town doesn't care about his personal survival. He cares about winning. Yare not pro-town.

If Ga7 is pro-town, kill me tommorow.
Alternativly, you can kill me today and kill him tommorow after my innocence has been proved. In that case, pay close attention to the people who defend Ga7.

[Anarkistsdream]

Mandy just put himself out there, I agree.

Unpurge
Purge: GA7

[ga7]

The reason I don't accept your offer isn't because I'm not pro-town, it's because I'm tired of your gambit that never goes all the way and accept retaliation. You give no actual defense to anything relevant and just give me that measly offer. I can't take it seriously, and can't be sure that in this particular setting if your claim is real you would actually be of help for us. The one thing I know though, is that you seem to thrive on Chaos
Answer my arguments, then I'll see what to do with it.

[spinwizard]

The reason I don't accept your offer isn't because I'm not pro-town, it's because I'm tired of your gambit that never goes all the way and accept retaliation. You give no actual defense to anything relevant and just give me that measly offer. I can't take it seriously, and can't be sure that in this particular setting if your claim is real you would actually be of help for us. The one thing I know though, is that you seem to thrive on Chaos
Answer my arguments, then I'll see what to do with it.

?

[ga7]

How about reading complete sentences?

[spinwizard]

How about reading complete sentences?

Did u edit that or am I very tired and not reading properly!

[McSnipe]

See why I want to get rid of Spin?

[The Weird One]

not really

[mandalorian2298]

The reason I don't accept your offer isn't because I'm not pro-town, it's because I'm tired of your gambit that never goes all the way and accept retaliation. You give no actual defense to anything relevant and just give me that measly offer. I can't take it seriously, and can't be sure that in this particular setting if your claim is real you would actually be of help for us. The one thing I know though, is that you seem to thrive on Chaos
Answer my arguments, then I'll see what to do with it.

1. Explanation for Spin: Ga7 is saying that he is refusing to accept my offer, not only because he isn't pro-town , but for other reasons as well.

2. LMAO. Just for the sake of curiosity, pray tell me of this occassion when I played the lynching game, a townie got hung and I weaseled out of taking my punishment.

3. Keep on squirming. It amuses me.

[ga7]

You are weaseling out right now, trying to put another life on the balance because _you_ screwed up. You remind me more and more of a desperate scum, both in your attempts to put the heat on other people and holding on weak arguments. I won't bother checking other games, but I'm pretty sure you do this shit regardless of your alignment
How about you actually defend yourself and play mafia instead? Because if you think I need to defend myself for not wanting to play your stupid game that has way more chances to screw town than otherwise, you're dead wrong

[Anarkistsdream]

Personally, I think you are both townies.

[ga7]

That might be the case Still Mandy is scummy so no reason for me to let him off the hook.

[McSnipe]

We have no evidnece..this is day one. Let's just kick back, remove the noobs, and wait for one of you suspected guys to slip up.

[riggable]

I tend to believe Cena_Rules' roleclaim because it was so similar to the role described during the supposed attempted day kill.
I don't agree with everyone's initial Views on Spinwizard and Mandalorian. These two guys expressed their views on Cena, and both stated their thoughts in steadfast ways. At this point I'll remind us that Attacking suspected scum is a GOOD thing and Spin and Mand were both doing this. These two made their posts on this topic BEFORE Cena roleclaimed and before the Day Kill action took place. Those two actions were a very signifigant part of Day 1. Everyone's views on the game changed at that moment: Cena Is basically Unkillable, and defintely not scum. All of a sudden Spin's and Mandy's ideas were no longer valid. Now, instead of them attack a potential scum(good) they were attacking an unlynchable third party(bad)
This is what got votes on them. Obviously, they would have a change of mind at this point, and thats ok. When new information is brought to light, new theories and opinions are formed. For example, currently, I have to assume that Cena_Rules must have some sort of way of being killed, if its not day kill or night kill, perhaps he's just making up the unlynchable aspect of that rolelclaim?
In any case, I think Spin should be off the hook. I'll post a seperate post about something involving this point.
Mandy, on the other hand, I don't feel this way so much. While i'm willing to believe that, yes, His attacking of Cena at the time was justified, I think the way he went about post-roleclaim was horrible. the stupid "if i lynch then we'll lynch then you'll lynch tommorow" pleading to get out of a tough situation is idiotic, silly, and certainly unhelpful.
FOS: Mandy

1 more thing on mandy though, he seems to be implying that something horrible will happen to Kalishnikov if he gets lynched. Either this is some part of his role states that he and Kalishinikov are linked, or this is more of the "if I get lynched he gets lynched" bullshit. I hope its the first option.






Actually, one more last thing. For god sakes, mod, can we get some votecounts in here? Jesus, people are voting and unvoting left and right and i have no clue what the state of the game is anymore. WIth this big of a game, we should have vote counts every couple of pages to keep things orderly. THis is very important. Thanks!

[mandalorian2298]

You are weaseling out right now, trying to put another life on the balance because _you_ screwed up. You remind me more and more of a desperate scum, both in your attempts to put the heat on other people and holding on weak arguments. I won't bother checking other games, but I'm pretty sure you do this shit regardless of your alignment
How about you actually defend yourself and play mafia instead? Because if you think I need to defend myself for not wanting to play your stupid game that has way more chances to screw town than otherwise, you're dead wrong

Here is how I saw your post:

Why should I be accountable for my votes!? I am not voting you because I think that you are scum, I am voting you because if I yield now I would call on myself unneccesary attention, especialy when your corpse proves that you are indeed pro-town.
A chatchy, if unsubstantiated phrase will be a good opening for this sentence. How about"You have shifty, scummy eyes"? No, shit I am on net, I can't see your eyes. Ah well, if I keep it general enough, it's bound to ring truthfully to some fool. It should also remind the person reading it that I am not a newbie, despite the fact that I'm squirming at the moment. I KNOW! "You remind me of a desperate Scum". It has a nice, country-western ring to it, too.
Now, I have to finish the sentece with some proof of my claim. I better come up with two separate pieces of evidence, rather then one, because given choice between both of them being correct and both of them being wrong, most people will decide that ONE of them must be correct (it's called 'gray falacy' and it's a result of intelectual laziness) So, two bad things that Mandy is doing are, let's see:
1. he is accusing people, other then himself, of being scum. Why would a Townie do a thing like that!?
2. He is holding on to his arguments. Which is..er..bad. Bah, I am just asking you all to remeber that I have two, not one, but TWO piecies of proof here!
Ok, I know that it's impossible for me to logicaly explain Mandy's willingness to be lynched FIRST and then take me after him if he is in fact town (and he probably is *gulp* ) and my own willingness to lynch him and then suffer no consequnces for his being town. So, I'll approach this like a politician: "Dear Townies, Mandy's past is filled with lies. He has lied to you before and he will do so again! Never mind the examples, I am talking in general here. "
How about you give me a chance to weasel out of this. And stop using that 'lynching game' bullshit! It's way to efficiant and has put me in a bad spot.
Your eyes are very heavy. You will believe anything that I post. This post was not my defense. I have nothing to defend from. I am pro-Town. I am pro-Town. I am pro-Town. I am pro-Town.