Dawn Of War Mafia. Town won. Woot. Finally

[spinwizard]

Mcsnipe, if u want 2 get rid of the noobs why the F*** do u want 2 get rid of me...I have been playing mafia on this site since last yr!

NOOB ALERT!

[riggable]

Mcsnipe, if u want 2 get rid of the noobs why the F*** do u want 2 get rid of me...I have been playing mafia on this site since last yr!

NOOB ALERT!

Heh it has been already made perfectly clear that Mcsnipe is a noob and not a good player. I'm just holding off my attack of him until we get this mandalorian mess out of the way.

[kwanton]

I only saw the big red letters at first an thought you were talking about me

[spinwizard]

I only saw the big red letters at first an thought you were talking about me

[spinwizard]

Mandalorian is a L -1. Koesen pulls a humoungous scum tell with that contradiction in Mandys claim. Cool, I, personally, won't hammer until Mandy puts up a defense for that.



And Mandy, you better fucking have a good, solid defense. No beating around the bush.

So...lets hear the defence...

[Koesen]

Koesen pulls a humoungous scum tell with that contradiction in Mandys claim.

To be fair, the credit should go to Iliad. I merely put the quotes he referred to side by side

[diddle]

unpurge, i'm waiting for a defense

[mandalorian2298]

A pro-town would either accept my offer or stop suspecting me. A pro-town doesn't care about his personal survival. He cares about winning. Yare not pro-town.

Just looking back, this line stood out to me and no one else has commented on me. I don't consider it true because I don't consider it a win unless i survive all the way. I don't know if any others think that way, but this is a just a personal view.

As far as I am concerned, YOU can consider it a win only if the game ends on your birhtday and you get the cake with the pink frosting. However, a a good mafia player understands the concept of 'Win conditions”.

:lol: Ok that made me laugh, kudos on that. But you know Mandy, that doesn't change the fact you still haven't defended yourself against my points and instead came up with that whole BS. Could it be that you're not able to defend yourself so then rely on BS attacks? First "Kalish is a lyncher" now that

1. The Kalish-is-a-lyncher theory is a standard example of my insanity . Feel free to disregard it, since his lyncherhood is irrelevant anyway. (I must point out, though, that Kalish has dissapeared from the face of the forum after I made that "Vig me tonight" post )
2. Defend myself against what? Ok, here is my defense: “Dear Scum, you really shouldn't revenge vote me because it's a naughty thing to do.” What was your attack anyway? The way I remember it, I FOSed you and PCM:

Ok, IMO, one of these two is scum:

FOS mandy for pushing for more roleclaims.

Concerning the role itself, of course it seems a bit too much, but that's why I think Cena might be lying on some parts, or his role can't do all at once maybe. In any case, FOS Mandy for that pushing on the possible masons' identity.

These two voted me for asking Masons to confirm one of their own? That's what Masons are for!! FOS Ga7 and Nagerus
On the other hand if Cena is Mafia Godfather, his buddies won't stick their neck out (more then the two posts above, that is ) because that could doom them all at once.
Of course, if Cena is Khorn, he is all alone now (poor little Blood God ) and he has no minions to shelter him. Of course, this kind of over-powered role would probably be balanced with some kind of Buffy, so, if there is someone here who's ONLY job is to hubt Khorn down, claim now and let's get him.
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In response, PCM submarrined (of course ) and you counter-attacked with the mighty "I know you are but what am I?" defense. I suggested and I still suggest that we lynch me today and the lynch Ga7 when my role is revealed. (I don't give a crap if you guys think believe me, I just hope that you will not allow Ga7 to get away after you find out that I am pro-town.) After that you are basically trying to lynch me, but without being lynched yourself after my innocence is proven.

On Page 11:

never heard of this Psychic role before, but it sounds to fantastic to be anything but real.

On Page 19:

I am Psychic

Good find, Iliad.

Unpurge. Purge Mandalorian.

Well, my first instinct WAS to post: “WOW! You are Psychic too? Well, since you are a super-psychic, then I surely hope that scum will target you (since you are un-killable) and not me.” However, since I'm not an idiot, of course I posted that I never heard of this role (and, until I became one, I never heard of it).

In conclusion: I repeat, I don't give damn if you lynch me or Ga7 first (hell, I could even live with him being Viged ). Either way, Ga7 is eliminated and I will be content with knowing that I have unmasked one scum. Also, after I am killed, I suggest that someone investigates Pancake, who has not responded to my FOS, but has chosen to submarrine insted.
Cena's case is more of a hit-or-miss one, but I figure that he can do more damage as Khorn then he can do good with his Psychic role (part of the reason why I am ok with being lynch lies in the fact that I think this role sounds better then it acctualy is (probably a lot of Vigs out there.) Otherwise, it would totaly over-power Town (unless there really is a God-like character on the Scum Side ).

[spinwizard]

A pro-town would either accept my offer or stop suspecting me. A pro-town doesn't care about his personal survival. He cares about winning. Yare not pro-town.

Just looking back, this line stood out to me and no one else has commented on me. I don't consider it true because I don't consider it a win unless i survive all the way. I don't know if any others think that way, but this is a just a personal view.

As far as I am concerned, YOU can consider it a win only if the game ends on your birhtday and you get the cake with the pink frosting. However, a a good mafia player understands the concept of 'Win conditions”.

:lol: Ok that made me laugh, kudos on that. But you know Mandy, that doesn't change the fact you still haven't defended yourself against my points and instead came up with that whole BS. Could it be that you're not able to defend yourself so then rely on BS attacks? First "Kalish is a lyncher" now that

1. The Kalish-is-a-lyncher theory is a standard example of my insanity . Feel free to disregard it, since his lyncherhood is irrelevant anyway. (I must point out, though, that Kalish has dissapeared from the face of the forum after I made that "Vig me tonight" post )
2. Defend myself against what? Ok, here is my defense: “Dear Scum, you really shouldn't revenge vote me because it's a naughty thing to do.” What was your attack anyway? The way I remember it, I FOSed you and PCM:

Ok, IMO, one of these two is scum:

FOS mandy for pushing for more roleclaims.

Concerning the role itself, of course it seems a bit too much, but that's why I think Cena might be lying on some parts, or his role can't do all at once maybe. In any case, FOS Mandy for that pushing on the possible masons' identity.

These two voted me for asking Masons to confirm one of their own? That's what Masons are for!! FOS Ga7 and Nagerus
On the other hand if Cena is Mafia Godfather, his buddies won't stick their neck out (more then the two posts above, that is ) because that could doom them all at once.
Of course, if Cena is Khorn, he is all alone now (poor little Blood God ) and he has no minions to shelter him. Of course, this kind of over-powered role would probably be balanced with some kind of Buffy, so, if there is someone here who's ONLY job is to hubt Khorn down, claim now and let's get him.
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In response, PCM submarrined (of course ) and you counter-attacked with the mighty "I know you are but what am I?" defense. I suggested and I still suggest that we lynch me today and the lynch Ga7 when my role is revealed. (I don't give a crap if you guys think believe me, I just hope that you will not allow Ga7 to get away after you find out that I am pro-town.) After that you are basically trying to lynch me, but without being lynched yourself after my innocence is proven.

On Page 11:

never heard of this Psychic role before, but it sounds to fantastic to be anything but real.

On Page 19:

I am Psychic

Good find, Iliad.

Unpurge. Purge Mandalorian.

Well, my first instinct WAS to post: “WOW! You are Psychic too? Well, since you are a super-psychic, then I surely hope that scum will target you (since you are un-killable) and not me.” However, since I'm not an idiot, of course I posted that I never heard of this role (and, until I became one, I never heard of it).

In conclusion: I repeat, I don't give damn if you lynch me or Ga7 first (hell, I could even live with him being Viged ). Either way, Ga7 is eliminated and I will be content with knowing that I have unmasked one scum. Also, after I am killed, I suggest that someone investigates Pancake, who has not responded to my FOS, but has chosen to submarrine insted.
Cena's case is more of a hit-or-miss one, but I figure that he can do more damage as Khorn then he can do good with his Psychic role (part of the reason why I am ok with being lynch lies in the fact that I think this role sounds better then it acctualy is (probably a lot of Vigs out there.) Otherwise, it would totaly over-power Town (unless there really is a God-like character on the Scum Side ).

This is basicly sound...

[kalishnikov]

Alright, that said, purge: mandalorian. I think that your backtracking and trying to outplay us. And I only disappeared after that comment because it was late as hell here when it was posted.

My vote should put him at lynch -1 if I counted properly (because diddle unvoted) so I leave the decision to someone else for the hammer.

[mandalorian2298]

Alright, that said, purge: mandalorian. I think that your backtracking and trying to outplay us. And I only disappeared after that comment because it was late as hell here when it was posted.

My vote should put him at lynch -1 if I counted properly (because diddle unvoted) so I leave the decision to someone else for the hammer.

Bah, as long as they purge Ga7 (and PCM and Cena) after I'm lynched, I don't mind you winning, Kalish.

[kalishnikov]

Alright, that said, purge: mandalorian. I think that your backtracking and trying to outplay us. And I only disappeared after that comment because it was late as hell here when it was posted.

My vote should put him at lynch -1 if I counted properly (because diddle unvoted) so I leave the decision to someone else for the hammer.

Bah, as long as they purge Ga7 (and PCM and Cena) after I'm lynched, I don't mind you winning, Kalish.

lol, thanks. I just wish your lynch would bring me the win. How cool would that be on day 1.

And part of my reasoning (now) for your lynch is I think we've got some good leads for day 2 no matter how you turn out. And rest assured, a few you've talked about will be looked into tonight/tomorrow I think so even if we are going the wrong direction by lynching you, your death will not be in vain.

[ga7]

And yet again, you bring nothing to the table. I feel you should be hammered just for being so sure I'm scum because I put arguments you're still not defending against, but I want to get to the bottom of this, so once again I'll spell it out for you. Please no one hammers till he answers my next post, we're not in a hurry and I'm not thoroughly satisfied yet

[mandalorian2298]

I agree with you Kalish. Live or die, this Day 1 gave us plenty of leads. Besides, maybe I was right about all three in which case my head will become so too big for me to log in.

And yet again, you bring nothing to the table. I feel you should be hammered just for being so sure I'm scum because I put arguments you're still not defending against, but I want to get to the bottom of this, so once again I'll spell it out for you. Please no one hammers till he answers my next post, we're not in a hurry and I'm not thoroughly satisfied yet

I am waiting with appropriate giddyness.

[ga7]

Alright, another quote recollection.
Pre-Cena claim:

FOS Exile and Fircoal for bandwagoning Cena.

Post-Cena claim:

Sound logic, if you are both unlychable and bulletproof. I never heard of this Psychic role before, but it sounds to fantastic to be anything but real.
Post-Cena claim:
FOS Spin for not unvoting

Also, had you not been lying, you would be mod-killed for quoting your PM

Lynching game is on: If cena's corpse show's Pro-Town, we can check mine tommorow for further clues. (Also, since there have been a few idiotic Doc's in the past, if we lynch Cena and he is scum, PROTECT ME! Don't try to outbluff them. ).

Post-day scene:

I am Farseer. I lead the Eldar Forces. I am Psychic (but that's all, I am no Superman ).

Kalish, if you are a Lyncher, I congratulate you.

Consider following my last will: The case against me totaly runs against any Earthly logic. Since this is a game full of new players and there is a deadline, I am not to stricken about being lynched and I forgive you all. HOWEVER, due to the fact that LSU has been bitching A LOT, about people who do stupid things in his games, I suggest that you punish HIM when you discover that you have lynched a Power role.

Reason: Either he is Town and has played a dumb move (which, acording to him is a crime punishable by death ) or he is Scum. Either way, lynching (or viging) him is a right thing to do.

First of all, I haven't unvoted Cena. I know that I should do it because of Skittles' post which confirms Cena's claim. However, bare in mind, if Cena has made a completly overpovered Evil God role (analog to Exile's God roles) Cena could have posted that scene himself (like a magic or comething).
It is more likely, though, that Scum tried to kill him and get my lynch in the same package, so unpurge. For now.
(...)
Of course, if Cena is Khorn, he is all alone now (poor little Blood God ) and he has no minions to shelter him. Of course, this kind of over-powered role would probably be balanced with some kind of Buffy, so, if there is someone here who's ONLY job is to hubt Khorn down, claim now and let's get him.

How about this then:

1. We lynch me today.
2. If I turn out to be Pro-Town, you agree to be lynched tommorow.
3. If you are scum, Cena is lynched next.

If you agree with this conditions, hell, I'll vote myself (and hope that Town isn't composed of total idiots who would buy a WIFOM defnes tommorow ).

1- Why did you offer your lynch if you were wrong about a potentially primordial town role? Just because?
2- After the day scene, why did you feel like the only way that made sense is if Cena manipulated the scene and is in fact Khorne?
3-Why, as a claimed pro-town, did you feel it was necessary that if someone has the power to kill that supposed Khorne fella, he needed to claim right away?
4-In your lynching game, I can understand you want me lynched, but still Cena too that is a proven pro-town for anyone with half a brain?
5-Why did you do nothing but point people in case you are lynched and ask them dead? The list is going long there, aren't you just pointing people you think are power roles to help your scum buddies save your screwup?
6-If you are really in fact leader of the Eldar, don't you have partners that could defend you?
7-Is insanity really an excuse to want half your accusers dead?

That's all for now

[diddle]

seems like you've given in mandy

[mandalorian2298]

Alright, another quote recollection. (is two posts above , so I saw no purpose to requote my quotes)
1- Why did you offer your lynch if you were wrong about a potentially primordial town role? Just because?
2- After the day scene, why did you feel like the only way that made sense is if Cena manipulated the scene and is in fact Khorne?
3-Why, as a claimed pro-town, did you feel it was necessary that if someone has the power to kill that supposed Khorne fella, he needed to claim right away?
4-In your lynching game, I can understand you want me lynched, but still Cena too that is a proven pro-town for anyone with half a brain?
5-Why did you do nothing but point people in case you are lynched and ask them dead? The list is going long there, aren't you just pointing people you think are power roles to help your scum buddies save your screwup?
6-If you are really in fact leader of the Eldar, don't you have partners that could defend you?
7-Is insanity really an excuse to want half your accusers dead?

That's all for now

1.& 4. : I am not sure that Cena is Khorn. However, if he is Town then his role is MASSIVLY overpowered. However, if he is an evil God, then his role would make much more sense (and he is, probably not immune to lynching. If he is, then I a must be right about there being a 'Buffy' in this game, who has the power to NK him.)
It might seem like a paradox, but I believed Cena more BEFORE that Day scene. Here is my reasoning: if he is Pro-Town, then the Scum-Daykiller would have to be an idiot. There is absolutly nothing for Scum to gain from wasting a Day-Kill on the guy: a) who has a good chance to be lynched by the Town, which means that they get a free pass and b) who (no offense to Cena intended) isn't really high up there on the list of dangerous players. If there is a Scum-Day-Killer around, I would expect him to use his Day Killing on the most dangerous player, that is the player who is most likely to be protected by the Doc during Night (Nark, Exile, me or you would be my prim candidates).

2. : I never said it's the ONLY explanation. I have and still am claiming that it's the most logical one.

3. : You missunderstood. I invited the player who's only JOB is to see Khorn lynched to step up. If, however, Khorn really is unlynchable and unkillable then, Buffy, by all means, do stay hidden, don't concern yourself over my worthless hide, and nail that sucker tonight

5. : The list consists of three people: You (definite scum), Pancake (probable Scum) and Cena (possible Khorn). However, I can understand how list might look bigger from your perspective.

6. : Because I am not a Mason. And, if there are other Eldar's out there, they would be pretty stupid to stick their necks out for the guy who: a) might be lying (I repeat, I have no Mason partners) and b) is probably going to get lynched anyway, just so that his story might be checked out.

7. I need neither excuses or reasons. It needs results.

Would you guys make your mind allready if you are going to lynch Ga7 before or after lynching me? All we do is go round and round. He had said his piece, I have said mine, so make up your minds allready!

[diddle]

seems fair enough, and this is where my vote shall stay

purge Ga7

[ga7]

1&4- I agree about Cena probably not being lynch-immune. Considering that he said he can't recruit and that psychic role doesn't seem much important, that doesn't leave him much overpowered at all. In fact the question is, why would scum be that more likely to have this role, and why if you're not sure you were pushing so much for his death? For the day-kill, did you look at the lineup?
2&7- Ok, I guess you do have some loose screws and we'll leave it at that
3-That certainly didn't sound like that.
5-Then you're forgetting about LSU that you wanted lynched or vig killed first for going after a town, then Kalish that should be lynched for being a lyncher, then the three you listed.
6-Fair enough. Then there is still nothing that tells us you lonely Eldar isn't gonna screw us at some point, being third party.

Hammer needed

[McSnipe]

Mcsnipe, if u want 2 get rid of the noobs why the F*** do u want 2 get rid of me...I have been playing mafia on this site since last yr!

NOOB ALERT!

Heh it has been already made perfectly clear that Mcsnipe is a noob and not a good player. I'm just holding off my attack of him until we get this mandalorian mess out of the way.

What makes you think I'm a bad player?

And Spin, your play this game has been below par. Yes, you have experince, alot more than me, but in this game, you haven't been at your best.

[ga7]

Rofl, I just checked back and Kalish hammered you, as Diddle's vote was on me in the first place. Bit of a waste of time there

[spinwizard]

Mcsnipe, if u want 2 get rid of the noobs why the F*** do u want 2 get rid of me...I have been playing mafia on this site since last yr!

NOOB ALERT!

Heh it has been already made perfectly clear that Mcsnipe is a noob and not a good player. I'm just holding off my attack of him until we get this mandalorian mess out of the way.

What makes you think I'm a bad player?

And Spin, your play this game has been below par. Yes, you have experince, alot more than me, but in this game, you haven't been at your best.

???

[diddle]

Rofl, I just checked back and Kalish hammered you, as Diddle's vote was on me in the first place. Bit of a waste of time there

oh, damn

[McSnipe]

Mcsnipe, if u want 2 get rid of the noobs why the F*** do u want 2 get rid of me...I have been playing mafia on this site since last yr!

NOOB ALERT!

Heh it has been already made perfectly clear that Mcsnipe is a noob and not a good player. I'm just holding off my attack of him until we get this mandalorian mess out of the way.

What makes you think I'm a bad player?

And Spin, your play this game has been below par. Yes, you have experince, alot more than me, but in this game, you haven't been at your best.

???

Less Than Adaquete

[cena-rules]

mandy I take no offence. Are we waiting on a hammer and do people want me too hammer?