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Postby DaGip on Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:05 am

muy_thaiguy wrote:
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s.xkitten wrote:the plane hit the fucking pentagon, where do you think that the eye witnesses were going to be from?

"Then I picked [the plane] up as it struck very low into the Pentagon. The wings folded back and it was like watching someone slam an empty aluminum can into a wall. The jet folded up like an accordion." [Mike Walter - eyewitness]

In similar crashes, the resulting debris was in small pieces, 6 feet long at most. You don't SEE huge pieces of airplane sitting at crash sites in head on collisions such as slamming into the wall of the Pentagon. Despite their impressive size, aircraft and relatively fragile objects due to weight considerations.

"I was in the left hand lane with my windows closed. I did not hear anything at all until the plane was just right above our cars." [Father Stephen McGraw] estimates that the plane passed about 20 feet over his car, as he waited in the left hand lane of the road, on the side closest to the Pentagon.
"The plane clipped the top of a light pole just before it got to us, injuring a taxi driver, whose taxi was just a few feet away from my car.

"I saw it crash into the building," he said. "My only memories really were that it looked like a plane coming in for a landing. I mean in the sense that it was controlled and sort of straight. That was my impression,"


Why did the Planes that hit the Twin Towers not have their wings FOLDED up?
Simply put, the design of the buildings are not the same. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. And by design, I also mean the layout of the buildings as well.


You see, this says the wings were FOLDED UP.
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Postby DaGip on Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:07 am

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Postby DaGip on Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:18 am

Serbia wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:I just want you to show the pictures of the damaged boeing 757 that this government says hit the pentagon.


Yeah... um, when a plane crashes into a very large structure, the plane doesn't just bounce off of it. Did you notice what happened to the planes that hit the Trade Center towers? They were swallowed up by the building. Don't you think that it's POSSIBLE that the same thing happened at the Pentagon?


Uh, I am sooo confused...Wings folded up....uh, wings swallowed up...uh....uhhh?!?!? :shock:
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Postby DaGip on Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:24 am

heavycola wrote:
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muy_thaiguy wrote:The problem with most of your posts in this thread xtra, is that you keep saying the same thiing that has been answered multiple times by multiple people and yet you continue to not listen to them, instead, you post websites that only hold merit with those who believe them and little if anything else. Also, care to explain what happened to those passengers on those planes since they didn't crash? And think about the lay outs of the Pentagon and the WTC, doesn't take a Rocket Scientist for that.



I just want to know what happened to the boeing 757 that hit the pentagon.



a CNN reporter said on live air that it never happened


this government says it vaporized


and nobody can show pics of it


and some that do wont go get the reward with all the other nuts that cant either




add to that the pentagon wont release any video that clearly shows a boeing 757 hit it.







explian or not. :lol:


its really simple.....


just help prove this governments story, i know you can.







and if you cant, just remember that 19 kids with box cutters brought this country to its knees. lol :lol: :lol:




and thats the REAL PROBLEM :lol: :lol: :lol:

Dude do you know what whill happen to a plane which hits hits a building full speed?


They modelled it at Purdue University. Essentially, a fully fuel-laden 757 hitting a building strengthened with kevlar reinforced columns at 400mph will pretty much disintegrate. Fuselages are not built to withstand that, are they? And of course the wheel hub and engine parts found came from a 757...


What's your source? And was there any GOVERNMENT grants involved?


http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/cmh/simu ... index.html
look at phase 1 and phase 2
there is the link to the research. I don't know about grants - they already have an IBM supercomputer to model all this on.


You see, look at this link to Good Ol' Purdue's famous SuperComputer and see that the wings go THROUGH the Pentagon...but the as stated in a post above, eyewitnesses are saying the wings FOLDED up upon impact. So go figure? :roll:
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Postby soundout9 on Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:24 am

DaGip wrote:
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xtratabasco wrote:I just want you to show the pictures of the damaged boeing 757 that this government says hit the pentagon.


Yeah... um, when a plane crashes into a very large structure, the plane doesn't just bounce off of it. Did you notice what happened to the planes that hit the Trade Center towers? They were swallowed up by the building. Don't you think that it's POSSIBLE that the same thing happened at the Pentagon?


Uh, I am sooo confused...Wings folded up....uh, wings swallowed up...uh....uhhh?!?!? :shock:

I plane hit the pentagon end of disscusion there is even footage from a security gate at the pentagon. i dont have the link but ill get it when i get home. right now im at school and the bells about to ring....lol
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Postby muy_thaiguy on Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:26 am

I've been wondering when someone would mention that.^^^

They released the tapes of the plane impacting the Pentagon, and these were released awhile ago.
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Postby heavycola on Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:36 am

DaGip wrote:
You see, look at this link to Good Ol' Purdue's famous SuperComputer and see that the wings go THROUGH the Pentagon...but the as stated in a post above, eyewitnesses are saying the wings FOLDED up upon impact. So go figure? :roll:


Purdue's model was set up to show what woudl happen to what is essentially a large mass of plane-shaped fluid hitting a buildign like the pentagon. Whether the wings folded up or not is besides the poitn, as far as the simulation goes. The point of my posting it was to show to people such as yourself that a fully laden plane travelling at that speed would, more or less, disintegrate on impact.
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Postby xtratabasco on Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:14 pm

heavycola wrote:
DaGip wrote:
You see, look at this link to Good Ol' Purdue's famous SuperComputer and see that the wings go THROUGH the Pentagon...but the as stated in a post above, eyewitnesses are saying the wings FOLDED up upon impact. So go figure? :roll:


Purdue's model was set up to show what woudl happen to what is essentially a large mass of plane-shaped fluid hitting a buildign like the pentagon. Whether the wings folded up or not is besides the poitn, as far as the simulation goes. The point of my posting it was to show to people such as yourself that a fully laden plane travelling at that speed would, more or less, disintegrate on impact.



the only problem is the whole is only about 8 feet tall with no burn marks where normally the wings would have hit the pentagon. :lol:
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Postby xtratabasco on Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:15 pm

soundout9 wrote:
DaGip wrote:
Serbia wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:I just want you to show the pictures of the damaged boeing 757 that this government says hit the pentagon.


Yeah... um, when a plane crashes into a very large structure, the plane doesn't just bounce off of it. Did you notice what happened to the planes that hit the Trade Center towers? They were swallowed up by the building. Don't you think that it's POSSIBLE that the same thing happened at the Pentagon?


Uh, I am sooo confused...Wings folded up....uh, wings swallowed up...uh....uhhh?!?!? :shock:

I plane hit the pentagon end of disscusion there is even footage from a security gate at the pentagon. i dont have the link but ill get it when i get home. right now im at school and the bells about to ring....lol





ladies and gentlemen I believe we have our next millionaire :lol: :lol:
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Postby DaGip on Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:25 pm

xtratabasco wrote:
soundout9 wrote:
DaGip wrote:
Serbia wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:I just want you to show the pictures of the damaged boeing 757 that this government says hit the pentagon.


Yeah... um, when a plane crashes into a very large structure, the plane doesn't just bounce off of it. Did you notice what happened to the planes that hit the Trade Center towers? They were swallowed up by the building. Don't you think that it's POSSIBLE that the same thing happened at the Pentagon?


Uh, I am sooo confused...Wings folded up....uh, wings swallowed up...uh....uhhh?!?!? :shock:

I plane hit the pentagon end of disscusion there is even footage from a security gate at the pentagon. i dont have the link but ill get it when i get home. right now im at school and the bells about to ring....lol





ladies and gentlemen I believe we have our next millionaire :lol: :lol:


Good! Finally! Maybe Sound can pay off my School Loans for me... :lol:
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Postby xtratabasco on Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:48 pm

yes, he will be the "newest friend" on CC :lol: :lol:


gee, if I had only thought of checking out the Pentagons security tapes, they will surely show the 757 that hit the pentagon and we can close down this thread. :lol: :lol:
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Postby Backglass on Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:15 pm

xtratabasco wrote:the only problem is the whole is only about 8 feet tall with no burn marks where normally the wings would have hit the pentagon. :lol:


There you go exaggerating again "Mr. Eight Foot Wheels". :lol:

Your own conspiracy sites admit the hole is 13-16 feet. The fuselage of a 757 is roughly 13 feet in diameter.

Please answer my previous questions of:
  • WHERE the 757 is?
  • WHERE are the passengers?
  • WHO flew the drone?
  • WHERE is the drone wreckage?
  • WHY have we not had a single defector in the thousands of conspiring plotters in over FIVE YEARS?
I would love to hear your answers.

DaGip wrote:
Serbia wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:I just want you to show the pictures of the damaged boeing 757 that this government says hit the pentagon.


Yeah... um, when a plane crashes into a very large structure, the plane doesn't just bounce off of it. Did you notice what happened to the planes that hit the Trade Center towers? They were swallowed up by the building. Don't you think that it's POSSIBLE that the same thing happened at the Pentagon?


Uh, I am sooo confused...Wings folded up....uh, wings swallowed up...uh....uhhh?!?!? :shock:


Please try to follow along. Read my previous post.

Airplanes wings are hollow...not solid. They are struts skinned with metal, not iron beams. They are also not designed to hit or strike anything so it is not a surprise at all that they folded/collapsed during a 400mph impact.
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Postby Dancing Mustard on Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:02 pm

While you're busy answering Backglass' questions perhaps you'd be so kind as to find me a picture of a missile or a drone hitting the Pentagon. Even some pictures of missile/drone wreckage would be good enough.


Oh, but no scraps of tin.
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Postby soundout9 on Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:23 pm

xtratabasco wrote:yes, he will be the "newest friend" on CC :lol: :lol:


gee, if I had only thought of checking out the Pentagons security tapes, they will surely show the 757 that hit the pentagon and we can close down this thread. :lol: :lol:

I dont get whats so funny? are you saying the tapes are fake? well then try and answer backglass' questions
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Postby xtratabasco on Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:00 pm

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Please answer my previous questions of:[list][*]WHERE the 757 is?[*]WHERE are the passengers?[*]WHO flew the drone?[*]WHERE is the drone wreckage?[*]list]
I would love to hear your answers.




I already did

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... eptions%22
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Postby xtratabasco on Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:02 pm

soundout9 wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:yes, he will be the "newest friend" on CC :lol: :lol:


gee, if I had only thought of checking out the Pentagons security tapes, they will surely show the 757 that hit the pentagon and we can close down this thread. :lol: :lol:

I dont get whats so funny? are you saying the tapes are fake? well then try and answer backglass' questions



just show us the tapes hot-shot and go get your reward.


as to backglass I want to know and see pictures of the 757 that hit the pentagon, if he wants to ask questions about other stuff he can go start his thread.

as to the 8 foot wheel I meant engines. and also everyone of your questions is answered here on this link I posted about 6 times here but you dont bother to check them out or you dont understand, I would say the latter. :lol: :lol:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... eptions%22




now go get rich :lol: :lol:

bring back the pictures of the 757 that this government says hit the pentagon and then vaporized....


remember no scraps of tin.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby muy_thaiguy on Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:11 pm

Xtra, are you really that blind? They showed the videos of the jet impacting a few years ago on national tv. And you keep posting videos made by idiots who don't know what they are talking about. That is like saying the movie 300 is 100% accurate. In short, xtra, we give you proof, you deny it and call it something else from biased websites.
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Postby soundout9 on Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:32 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:Xtra, are you really that blind? They showed the videos of the jet impacting a few years ago on national tv. And you keep posting videos made by idiots who don't know what they are talking about. That is like saying the movie 300 is 100% accurate. In short, xtra, we give you proof, you deny it and call it something else from biased websites.

Also that video is like an hour long and i dont feel like watching that
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Postby soundout9 on Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:33 pm

at 1.27 start the video http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7890302236904791141&q=plane+hits+pentagon&total=295&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0 keep in mind this is a security gate.....i doesnt record every second
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Postby soundout9 on Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:36 pm

also notice how the smoke rises to the left of the crash site. the plane struck from the right. so if there was a bomb or any fake explosion or whatever the smoke would have gone straight up
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Postby xtratabasco on Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:37 pm

soundout9 wrote:at 1.27 start the video http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7890302236904791141&q=plane+hits+pentagon&total=295&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0 keep in mind this is a security gate.....i doesnt record every second



im sorry i dont see know 757 can you find another link?









:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


maybe one that has the wrong date on the bottom. :lol: :lol:
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Postby xtratabasco on Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:46 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:Xtra, are you really that blind? They showed the videos of the jet impacting a few years ago on national tv. And you keep posting videos made by idiots who don't know what they are talking about. That is like saying the movie 300 is 100% accurate. In short, xtra, we give you proof, you deny it and call it something else from biased websites.



your damn right I keep debunking "your" proof.


I want to see the 757 that this government says hit the pentagon and vaporized.

go find me some or dont and move on to another topic.



you and backglass havent shown anything but 1 scrap of tin that isnt even burnt, 1 small wheel that isnt off of a 757, something that looks like a hammer and something that is said to be the landing gear but looks nothing like landing gear off a 757 it looks like some kind of construction ram.

ohh and you showed some burnt bodies, because yes over 70 died in the Pentagon and somekind of motor (only 1) that isnt wrapped in tonguston and is surely not from a 757.


but, and here is the problem, you didnt show us any pictures of the 757 that hit the pentagon




go back, and start over. this is the reason 43%+ dont buy this governments story, cuzz there aint no proof.






go get you some money. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby soundout9 on Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:48 pm

What exactually do you think happened then?
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Postby xtratabasco on Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:49 pm

soundout9 wrote:What exactually do you think happened then?



I think this happened



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... eptions%22
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Postby soundout9 on Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:26 pm

xtratabasco wrote:
soundout9 wrote:What exactually do you think happened then?



I think this happened



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... eptions%22

Ive watched about half of that so far and well i gotta give it to you it has some convencing things. im starting to not be so sure about the pentagon. The pentagon deff does look fishy. but the other things about the world trade centers i still belive the gov and the discovery channel.
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