Seinfeld Mafia! Town Wins! Game Over!

[The Weird One]

unvote vote hitman
just to end day one and get this thing rolling.

[dustn64]

someone votes RIGHT after I post a vote count...

[The Weird One]

yup. someone got here RIGHT after you posted the vote count:wink:

[dustn64]

*cough*

[riggable]

Well, there's definitely a lyncher angle and Crab is jumping head on in it, but even if it makes sense for Jerry to be a lynchee, the Crab claim makes it difficult for me to find him credible.
Say Crab, about this classic scum defense "My worth will increase" hinting at the ever so popular locked role, how about giving us a full claim so that we can actually choose who to believe based on hard facts?

I think you skipped the part where I said, "I might not be important at this early stage of the game...". This is exactly why I am not giving my role fully. Don't be impatient. Nothing will come out of giving the full details atm.

Also riggable,

Due to outside life I have not been to this game since before the claim. I was interested as to who Crab would claim, but this is perposterous.

If you have not been into this before the claim, then, how did you make the statement that you were waiting to see what I would claim?

When you were at Lynch -1, I asked you for a role claim. I then did not get a chance to get back on the computer until when I made my next post. You can check this, I didn't post anywhere else in this time period.

Here's still the point: Crab is a liar! I can see no reason why he would crap-claim if he wasn't either scum or some sort of jester. His only defense is "I sound desperate", which is crap. More accurately, I was pissed off that he got off the hook for a crap-claim. Did he ever even give us what his character role was? NO. He only gave us his character flavour name("IM JERRY SEINFELD, BELIEVE ME")

why should we take our chances with a possibly scum(hitman) when we have an all but confirmed scum in crab?

[CrabNebula]

Well, there's definitely a lyncher angle and Crab is jumping head on in it, but even if it makes sense for Jerry to be a lynchee, the Crab claim makes it difficult for me to find him credible.
Say Crab, about this classic scum defense "My worth will increase" hinting at the ever so popular locked role, how about giving us a full claim so that we can actually choose who to believe based on hard facts?

I think you skipped the part where I said, "I might not be important at this early stage of the game...". This is exactly why I am not giving my role fully. Don't be impatient. Nothing will come out of giving the full details atm.

Also riggable,

Due to outside life I have not been to this game since before the claim. I was interested as to who Crab would claim, but this is perposterous.

If you have not been into this before the claim, then, how did you make the statement that you were waiting to see what I would claim?

When you were at Lynch -1, I asked you for a role claim. I then did not get a chance to get back on the computer until when I made my next post. You can check this, I didn't post anywhere else in this time period.

Here's still the point: Crab is a liar! I can see no reason why he would crap-claim if he wasn't either scum or some sort of jester. His only defense is "I sound desperate", which is crap. More accurately, I was pissed off that he got off the hook for a crap-claim. Did he ever even give us what his character role was? NO. He only gave us his character flavour name("IM JERRY SEINFELD, BELIEVE ME")

why should we take our chances with a possibly scum(hitman) when we have an all but confirmed scum in crab?

Heres something: Empty vessels make more noise.

Now, think about it, why would I "crap" claim and claim the main character of a game when if I am not it, then there must surely be someone with that character? So it makes no sense for me to false claim. However, it makes entire sense for YOU to "crap" claim. You might be mafia or a lyncher and the way you claimed, you sounded REALLY desperate to get me lynched. I am not the only one who felt that, ask the others.

And unlike you, I haven't asked anyone to believe me. However, it is in their best interest to do so as everyone will find out if and when I am lynched.

[Iliad]

Well, there's definitely a lyncher angle and Crab is jumping head on in it, but even if it makes sense for Jerry to be a lynchee, the Crab claim makes it difficult for me to find him credible.
Say Crab, about this classic scum defense "My worth will increase" hinting at the ever so popular locked role, how about giving us a full claim so that we can actually choose who to believe based on hard facts?

I think you skipped the part where I said, "I might not be important at this early stage of the game...". This is exactly why I am not giving my role fully. Don't be impatient. Nothing will come out of giving the full details atm.

Also riggable,

Due to outside life I have not been to this game since before the claim. I was interested as to who Crab would claim, but this is perposterous.

If you have not been into this before the claim, then, how did you make the statement that you were waiting to see what I would claim?

When you were at Lynch -1, I asked you for a role claim. I then did not get a chance to get back on the computer until when I made my next post. You can check this, I didn't post anywhere else in this time period.

Here's still the point: Crab is a liar! I can see no reason why he would crap-claim if he wasn't either scum or some sort of jester. His only defense is "I sound desperate", which is crap. More accurately, I was pissed off that he got off the hook for a crap-claim. Did he ever even give us what his character role was? NO. He only gave us his character flavour name("IM JERRY SEINFELD, BELIEVE ME")

why should we take our chances with a possibly scum(hitman) when we have an all but confirmed scum in crab?

Heres something: Empty vessels make more noise.

Now, think about it, why would I "crap" claim and claim the main character of a game when if I am not it, then there must surely be someone with that character? So it makes no sense for me to false claim. However, it makes entire sense for YOU to "crap" claim. You might be mafia or a lyncher and the way you claimed, you sounded REALLY desperate to get me lynched. I am not the only one who felt that, ask the others.

And unlike you, I haven't asked anyone to believe me. However, it is in their best interest to do so as everyone will find out if and when I am lynched.

Crab I don't know why would you claim Jerry. To sound believable?

Your claim is scummy, believable but scummy. Your whole avoiding the question and what you actually do is scummy but looks like the town is against hitman and he has played poorly and it has been a long day so
vote hitman

[Iliad]

Vote Count



NES- Fireedud, Jnd, Kiwi, TWO (4)

Firth- (0)

Illiad- crab (4)

Skoffin- (0)

LoVo- (0)

LSU- (0)

Crab- Riggable, Illiad, NES, hitman, (4)

TWO- (0)

Ga7- (0)

Kiwi- Crab (1)

Fireedud- (0)

Cena- (0)

Hitman- nag, Lovo, Skoffin, Ga7, firth, LSU (6)

16 Alive 9 to Lynch!

RED = most votes
blue = -1 lynch

shit quadruple voter

[Hitman079]

well, now that i read i guess i'll unvote
this all seems simply..strange. i don't know who to believe, since crab was under pressure to do so, that explains why he didn't say anything much about his role, and now riggable claims, which can place him in the lyncher position.

and to nag, i believe my playing style varies. in smaller games that are easier to keep track of discussion and all that, i'm more active but usually i'm overwhelmed in a huge game (LSU's Civil War). when crab had claimed i barely believed it since it was the main character. risky, but it just didn't strike the right chord with me. since the counter-claim i only thought that now crab is scum for sure, until i saw people talking about a lyncher and looked up what it was. i'll roleclaim if i have to.

[Hitman079]

well, a lot has happened since i began my post and finished it. i'm at -2 now, might as well claim.
i'm morty seinfield. HA! another seinfield. i get one bullet if my son gets lynched or nightkilled.

[CrabNebula]

Well, there's definitely a lyncher angle and Crab is jumping head on in it, but even if it makes sense for Jerry to be a lynchee, the Crab claim makes it difficult for me to find him credible.
Say Crab, about this classic scum defense "My worth will increase" hinting at the ever so popular locked role, how about giving us a full claim so that we can actually choose who to believe based on hard facts?

I think you skipped the part where I said, "I might not be important at this early stage of the game...". This is exactly why I am not giving my role fully. Don't be impatient. Nothing will come out of giving the full details atm.

Also riggable,

Due to outside life I have not been to this game since before the claim. I was interested as to who Crab would claim, but this is perposterous.

If you have not been into this before the claim, then, how did you make the statement that you were waiting to see what I would claim?

When you were at Lynch -1, I asked you for a role claim. I then did not get a chance to get back on the computer until when I made my next post. You can check this, I didn't post anywhere else in this time period.

Here's still the point: Crab is a liar! I can see no reason why he would crap-claim if he wasn't either scum or some sort of jester. His only defense is "I sound desperate", which is crap. More accurately, I was pissed off that he got off the hook for a crap-claim. Did he ever even give us what his character role was? NO. He only gave us his character flavour name("IM JERRY SEINFELD, BELIEVE ME")

why should we take our chances with a possibly scum(hitman) when we have an all but confirmed scum in crab?

Heres something: Empty vessels make more noise.

Now, think about it, why would I "crap" claim and claim the main character of a game when if I am not it, then there must surely be someone with that character? So it makes no sense for me to false claim. However, it makes entire sense for YOU to "crap" claim. You might be mafia or a lyncher and the way you claimed, you sounded REALLY desperate to get me lynched. I am not the only one who felt that, ask the others.

And unlike you, I haven't asked anyone to believe me. However, it is in their best interest to do so as everyone will find out if and when I am lynched.

Crab I don't know why would you claim Jerry. To sound believable?

Your claim is scummy, believable but scummy. Your whole avoiding the question and what you actually do is scummy but looks like the town is against hitman and he has played poorly and it has been a long day so
vote hitman

Avoiding what question exactly? Do not cast accusations for the sake of casting them!

[Iliad]

Well, there's definitely a lyncher angle and Crab is jumping head on in it, but even if it makes sense for Jerry to be a lynchee, the Crab claim makes it difficult for me to find him credible.
Say Crab, about this classic scum defense "My worth will increase" hinting at the ever so popular locked role, how about giving us a full claim so that we can actually choose who to believe based on hard facts?

I think you skipped the part where I said, "I might not be important at this early stage of the game...". This is exactly why I am not giving my role fully. Don't be impatient. Nothing will come out of giving the full details atm.

Also riggable,

Due to outside life I have not been to this game since before the claim. I was interested as to who Crab would claim, but this is perposterous.

If you have not been into this before the claim, then, how did you make the statement that you were waiting to see what I would claim?

When you were at Lynch -1, I asked you for a role claim. I then did not get a chance to get back on the computer until when I made my next post. You can check this, I didn't post anywhere else in this time period.

Here's still the point: Crab is a liar! I can see no reason why he would crap-claim if he wasn't either scum or some sort of jester. His only defense is "I sound desperate", which is crap. More accurately, I was pissed off that he got off the hook for a crap-claim. Did he ever even give us what his character role was? NO. He only gave us his character flavour name("IM JERRY SEINFELD, BELIEVE ME")

why should we take our chances with a possibly scum(hitman) when we have an all but confirmed scum in crab?

Heres something: Empty vessels make more noise.

Now, think about it, why would I "crap" claim and claim the main character of a game when if I am not it, then there must surely be someone with that character? So it makes no sense for me to false claim. However, it makes entire sense for YOU to "crap" claim. You might be mafia or a lyncher and the way you claimed, you sounded REALLY desperate to get me lynched. I am not the only one who felt that, ask the others.

And unlike you, I haven't asked anyone to believe me. However, it is in their best interest to do so as everyone will find out if and when I am lynched.

Crab I don't know why would you claim Jerry. To sound believable?

Your claim is scummy, believable but scummy. Your whole avoiding the question and what you actually do is scummy but looks like the town is against hitman and he has played poorly and it has been a long day so
vote hitman

Avoiding what question exactly? Do not cast accusations for the sake of casting them!

of what your actual role is. It's pretty simple to just claim the main character but mch harder to fake claim a role

[CrabNebula]

Avoiding what question exactly? Do not cast accusations for the sake of casting them!

of what your actual role is. It's pretty simple to just claim the main character but mch harder to fake claim a role

Have you skipped all my posts or are you refusing to read them? I have said innumerable times in this thread why a full role claim wouldn't be beneficial for the town at this juncture of the game (day 1 may I remind you). So, there is no question of avoiding any question at all.

[Iliad]

Avoiding what question exactly? Do not cast accusations for the sake of casting them!

of what your actual role is. It's pretty simple to just claim the main character but mch harder to fake claim a role

Have you skipped all my posts or are you refusing to read them? I have said innumerable times in this thread why a full role claim wouldn't be beneficial for the town at this juncture of the game (day 1 may I remind you). So, there is no question of avoiding any question at all.

I think you are not understanding me. I am not asking you to do it. I am saying you jsut lok a bit scummy by avoiding the question(i.e not answering it).

[CrabNebula]

It's pretty simple to just claim the main character but mch harder to fake claim a role

Sadly riggable has done both of those...and my reluctance to reveal my role should tell you that I am not lying (but then this is for you to figure out =/ )

[Iliad]

It's pretty simple to just claim the main character but mch harder to fake claim a role

Sadly riggable has done both of those...and my reluctance to reveal my role should tell you that I am not lying (but then this is for you to figure out =/ )

Looks like hitman will be the lynch this day and we will have to put this deabte on hold until the next day with more info

[nagerous]

well, a lot has happened since i began my post and finished it. i'm at -2 now, might as well claim.
i'm morty seinfield. HA! another seinfield. i get one bullet if my son gets lynched or nightkilled.

Sounds believable unvote

[firth4eva]

unvote until someone tells me whether this souinds believeable

[nagerous]

Metagame time again.. I've changed my mind vote crab

The way hes playing in nv5 suggests he just claimed the major role to out the main character to give scum information. Maybe riggable is a lyncher, I hope not but we're lacking leads.

[CrabNebula]

I request that you do not relate other games to this one. I play each one differently and act accordingly. You were my last hope, sadly, now that is also gone.

[CrabNebula]

And if you are lacking leads, then may I suggest riggable? But you guys won't believe me so I propose no lynch.

[firth4eva]

No I think someone should use a NK to kill riggable or crab. Just to confirm it.

[CrabNebula]

No I think someone should use a NK to kill riggable or crab. Just to confirm it.

Agreed. I have no problems with this...but riggable will

[lord voldemort]

unvotehitman feels beleivable, and though crabs claim feels scummy i gotta beleive it cause if he is jerry then he'll have major pro-town role

[ga7]

Unvote as I don't know enough to figure if it's a believable claim but it seems to be the general consensus. Regarding the NK of Crab or Rigg, cf my earlier post to avoid a possible townie death.