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Operation Drug War [Quenched]

Postby edbeard on Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:48 am

nvm fixed!



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For Forza:


There are 24 starting territories. Everything starts neutral except the 8 patrol cars, the 4 corner bosses, the 4 runners, the 4 corner junkies, the 4 counters.

All non-objective territories start with 2 neutrals. The Objective territories start with 4 neutrals except the Main Stash. The Main Stash starts with 6 neutrals.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/k3d00l




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What you need to know

1. This is an objective map. Four different ones that all include holding the main stash.
2. There are 24 starting territories. Everything starts neutral except the 8 patrol cars, the 4 corner bosses, the 4 runners, the 4 corner junkies, the 4 counters.
That's 4*4 + 8 = 16 + 8 = 24
3. There are 35 other territories that start out as neutral
4. Number of neutrals on those territories has yet to be determined. Proposed 2 on all with the exceptions of 4 on objective territories and 6 on Main Stash


Just done:

1. paperclip colour made red so it's more prominent.
2. stroke around boss and muscle changed. I think they're quite readable now.
3. large and small version

To do:

1. graphics stamp

Points of Discussion:

1. I guess Lanyards is out for a while so I need someone to do XML centering and to check my XML which I've already written. I think some gameplay changes have happened since then so those need fixing.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/9axsch

If you want to do the centering, that's the link above. Make a post so multiple people aren't working on it.

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Postby babinecz on Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:21 am

i live in baltimore, nothin cool about this shit
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Postby bryguy on Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:30 am

i agree with babinecz
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Postby edbeard on Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:38 pm

sorry that you guys feel that way. It's a game though, so all I'm trying to do is have a map with good gameplay.
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Postby fireedud on Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:50 pm

I doubt this will make this, with how many kids play CC.
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Postby sparkyball on Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:58 pm

I think this is a great idea... why not its just a game... Don't delve into it to much
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Postby oaktown on Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:21 pm

I know it's a game, and that it's a game about war, but by being such it glorifies war and ignores the violence associated with it. There are certain types of violence that don't need to be glorified any more than they already are - if we make a map that diminishes the impact of a form of violence that lies close to people in their day to day lives, such a map would be in bad taste.

Of course, it will always be a matter of opinion where we cross the line of bad taste; making a concentration camp map would be considered by most to cross the line, as would a map of Columbine High School, UVa, or the Omaha mall where the shooting took place recently. The Iraq map is personal to many, and has had many detractors. This idea may be in bad taste as well, as it has already provoked some negative feedback..
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Postby edbeard on Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:29 pm

if I hadn't mentioned 'The Wire' would babinecz have mentioned anything? Maybe. Maybe not. I'm sure he'll say he would've, but we'll never know. The first response to a thread can have a big impact on how other people react to that thread.


if I don't get any feedback on the map itself and the gameplay, then it won't matter at all because the map won't go anywhere.


Maybe someone can explain to me how this map is glorifying drugs and the violence associated with it. I just don't see it. I'd rather just get gameplay feedback though.
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Postby mibi on Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:18 pm

I personally don't have an issue with this map as it doesn't seem to glorify any thing in particular, although it is extremely basic at the moment. It coudl be that this map just reflects some of the relationships and realities in the drug world. You are walking a fine line and I wish you luck. I can't make any comment on the game play because its too rudimentary at this point, kinda looks like bacteria or something.

I will say that in my supermax map, which actually does glorify gang and prison violence, I haven't had one comment complaining about that aspect, which is why I am a bit confused that people automatically have an issue with this one. Your best bet is to accurately reflect your topic and have some better graphics to show its not what some people think its going to be.

I would also take out the south central reference.
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Postby Crowley on Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:07 am

It's just a map guys.
I see no problem with it. There are worse things than this on CNN every day...

Hell, we even have the men in blue represented on the map - Play as the good guys, triumphing over evil!
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Postby yeti_c on Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:13 am

Concur - get over yourselves...

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Postby oaktown on Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:57 am

yeti_c wrote:Concur - get over yourselves...

What is this, Concur Club?

If you really think this is a map worth making (and based on the above outline I'll need some more convincing) then you should proceed. If you are thoughtful and keep the graphics tasteful it should be fine.
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Postby bryguy on Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:00 am

oaktown wrote:
yeti_c wrote:Concur - get over yourselves...

What is this, Concur Club?.



wait, this isnt Concur Club??? shoot thought i had the wrong site :lol:
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Postby Coleman on Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:04 am

This looks pretty educational to me. If you make the drug aligned look really undesirable and very very away from cool (dirty) then I don't see a problem. Make the police look very much like the good guys in this scenario, like the D.A.R.E. dog, Superman and such.

As long as you aren't encouraging anyone to actual be a drug lord and you make the map feel more like you are attacking the drug lord then being one it should be pretty good.
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Postby bryguy on Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:05 am

Coleman wrote:This looks pretty educational to me. If you make the drug aligned look really undesirable and very very away from cool (dirty) then I don't see a problem. Make the police look very much like the good guys in this scenario, like the D.A.R.E. dog, Superman and such.

As long as you aren't encouraging anyone to actual be a drug lord and you make the map feel more like you are attacking the drug lord then being one it should be pretty good.


your actually half supporting this idea?!?!?!?!


to me its a HORRIBLE idea!!!!!!!
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