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Postby sully800 on Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:09 pm

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:Top 5 least gained in any game

1. Eggshen...........1 (3x)
2. Blitzaholic.........2
2. Juventino..........2
2. JR.....................2
2. Eggshen............2



Game 1461949

2 point win


I posted before, but it wasn't updated. GoVegan has two games in which he won zero points.

It happened to GoVegan in 1460017 and 1460020, and it could happen to you!
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Postby alex_white101 on Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:12 pm

sully800 wrote:
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:Top 5 least gained in any game

1. Eggshen...........1 (3x)
2. Blitzaholic.........2
2. Juventino..........2
2. JR.....................2
2. Eggshen............2



Game 1461949

2 point win


I posted before, but it wasn't updated. GoVegan has two games in which he won zero points.

It happened to GoVegan in 1460017 and 1460020, and it could happen to you!


its happened in loads of games...........

i mean i deadbeated 400 games in which none of any of the players gained points. JR stop trying to find lists u think u can put urself on :wink:
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Postby DiM on Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:19 pm

sully800 wrote:
DiM wrote:
AAFitz wrote:its figured by posting... like you say its flawed, but its less flawed.


what do you mean by posting?
if i post now i have a 50 wins streak do you take my word and put me on the top 5?

in order to verify if i'm lying or not you'd have to go through each of my games and chect the ending times and then sort them and see how many wins i really have. with my 400 games it can be done but with johnny's 5000 it's impossible so even if he comes and says he has 100 wins in a row i'd still rather believe him than check his games. :lol:


It's a simple Boy Who Cried Wolf scenario. If you make a claim that someone doesn't believe, they will probably check up on it. If your claim is false you probably won't be considered for future Top 5's since its been shown that you lie about them.

A win streak should definitely be considered by finishing time of the games, since that is what determines whether you won or not. Sure its an easy thing to lie about, but if someone is going to lie about an unofficial achievement on CC then they are even lamer than the people who cheat to get the "official" achievement of a higher score.


indeed it's a boy who cried wolf scenario but if somebody with 3000 games claims he has 60 wins in a row i wonder who's gonna check him ;) he has a LOT of games to check and i doubt anyone would do it.

you're also right about the lame thing but then again i ask you, where do you see the lamest people the biggest liars and the most cheaters if not on the internet.

believe me some people would do anything and stoop to the lowest level for a bit of attention
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Postby sully800 on Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:23 pm

alex_white101 wrote:its happened in loads of games...........

i mean i deadbeated 400 games in which none of any of the players gained points. JR stop trying to find lists u think u can put urself on :wink:


Right, but this isn't a case of deadbeating. He defeated his opponent in a normal game and received no points.
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Postby AAFitz on Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:01 pm

DiM wrote:
sully800 wrote:
DiM wrote:
AAFitz wrote:its figured by posting... like you say its flawed, but its less flawed.


what do you mean by posting?
if i post now i have a 50 wins streak do you take my word and put me on the top 5?

in order to verify if i'm lying or not you'd have to go through each of my games and chect the ending times and then sort them and see how many wins i really have. with my 400 games it can be done but with johnny's 5000 it's impossible so even if he comes and says he has 100 wins in a row i'd still rather believe him than check his games. :lol:


It's a simple Boy Who Cried Wolf scenario. If you make a claim that someone doesn't believe, they will probably check up on it. If your claim is false you probably won't be considered for future Top 5's since its been shown that you lie about them.

A win streak should definitely be considered by finishing time of the games, since that is what determines whether you won or not. Sure its an easy thing to lie about, but if someone is going to lie about an unofficial achievement on CC then they are even lamer than the people who cheat to get the "official" achievement of a higher score.


indeed it's a boy who cried wolf scenario but if somebody with 3000 games claims he has 60 wins in a row i wonder who's gonna check him ;) he has a LOT of games to check and i doubt anyone would do it.

you're also right about the lame thing but then again i ask you, where do you see the lamest people the biggest liars and the most cheaters if not on the internet.

believe me some people would do anything and stoop to the lowest level for a bit of attention


no, by posting, i meant when the games posted... I believe that is how its done... if you have an older game that loses, it breaks the streak. I think this was clarified somewhere above... i think
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Postby AAFitz on Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:03 pm

DiM wrote:
sully800 wrote:
DiM wrote:
AAFitz wrote:its figured by posting... like you say its flawed, but its less flawed.


what do you mean by posting?
if i post now i have a 50 wins streak do you take my word and put me on the top 5?

in order to verify if i'm lying or not you'd have to go through each of my games and chect the ending times and then sort them and see how many wins i really have. with my 400 games it can be done but with johnny's 5000 it's impossible so even if he comes and says he has 100 wins in a row i'd still rather believe him than check his games. :lol:


It's a simple Boy Who Cried Wolf scenario. If you make a claim that someone doesn't believe, they will probably check up on it. If your claim is false you probably won't be considered for future Top 5's since its been shown that you lie about them.

A win streak should definitely be considered by finishing time of the games, since that is what determines whether you won or not. Sure its an easy thing to lie about, but if someone is going to lie about an unofficial achievement on CC then they are even lamer than the people who cheat to get the "official" achievement of a higher score.


indeed it's a boy who cried wolf scenario but if somebody with 3000 games claims he has 60 wins in a row i wonder who's gonna check him ;) he has a LOT of games to check and i doubt anyone would do it.

you're also right about the lame thing but then again i ask you, where do you see the lamest people the biggest liars and the most cheaters if not on the internet.

believe me some people would do anything and stoop to the lowest level for a bit of attention


If someone posts a bunch of wins in a row, I personally guarantee, JR will make sure they actually won them :D
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Postby DiM on Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:23 pm

AAFitz wrote:
DiM wrote:
sully800 wrote:
DiM wrote:
AAFitz wrote:its figured by posting... like you say its flawed, but its less flawed.


what do you mean by posting?
if i post now i have a 50 wins streak do you take my word and put me on the top 5?

in order to verify if i'm lying or not you'd have to go through each of my games and chect the ending times and then sort them and see how many wins i really have. with my 400 games it can be done but with johnny's 5000 it's impossible so even if he comes and says he has 100 wins in a row i'd still rather believe him than check his games. :lol:


It's a simple Boy Who Cried Wolf scenario. If you make a claim that someone doesn't believe, they will probably check up on it. If your claim is false you probably won't be considered for future Top 5's since its been shown that you lie about them.

A win streak should definitely be considered by finishing time of the games, since that is what determines whether you won or not. Sure its an easy thing to lie about, but if someone is going to lie about an unofficial achievement on CC then they are even lamer than the people who cheat to get the "official" achievement of a higher score.


indeed it's a boy who cried wolf scenario but if somebody with 3000 games claims he has 60 wins in a row i wonder who's gonna check him ;) he has a LOT of games to check and i doubt anyone would do it.

you're also right about the lame thing but then again i ask you, where do you see the lamest people the biggest liars and the most cheaters if not on the internet.

believe me some people would do anything and stoop to the lowest level for a bit of attention


If someone posts a bunch of wins in a row, I personally guarantee, JR will make sure they actually won them :D



now that would be even lamer than lying to get on an unofficial list.

imagine verifying 3000 games to check if somebody is lying to break your record on an unofficial list. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Blitzaholic on Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:42 pm

alex_white101 wrote:
sully800 wrote:
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:Top 5 least gained in any game

1. Eggshen...........1 (3x)
2. Blitzaholic.........2
2. Juventino..........2
2. JR.....................2
2. Eggshen............2



Game 1461949

2 point win


I posted before, but it wasn't updated. GoVegan has two games in which he won zero points.

It happened to GoVegan in 1460017 and 1460020, and it could happen to you!


its happened in loads of games...........

i mean i deadbeated 400 games in which none of any of the players gained points. JR stop trying to find lists u think u can put urself on :wink:


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Postby Blitzaholic on Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:12 pm

sully800 wrote:
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:Top 5 least gained in any game

1. Eggshen...........1 (3x)
2. Blitzaholic.........2
2. Juventino..........2
2. JR.....................2
2. Eggshen............2



Game 1461949

2 point win


I posted before, but it wasn't updated. GoVegan has two games in which he won zero points.

It happened to GoVegan in 1460017 and 1460020, and it could happen to you!


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Postby Blitzaholic on Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:20 pm

misterman10 wrote:Update from this idea. Yeah, I'm hella-bored.

Highest posts per day average (minimum of 1 month active on site)

misterman..................54.78 ppd
muy_thaiguy..............45.81 ppd
Fircoal........................40.65 ppd
soundout9...................39.52 ppd
lord voldemort.............39.25 ppd
Skittles!.....................36.53 ppd
cena-rules.................34.10 ppd


thx for the stats, may add
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Postby Blitzaholic on Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:21 pm

misterman10 wrote:Top 5 Largest Cash-In's in an escalating game?

If so, I think me and the PC Leaders have the record:
Game 926581





firth4eva did a good job:

firth4eva wrote:
misterman10 wrote:
firth4eva wrote:
misterman10 wrote:Top 5 Largest Cash-In's in an escalating game?

If so, I think me and the PC Leaders have the record:
Game 926581


No you haven't
What's the record then, and game #.


http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=312050
over 1845

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=470183
1515

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=926581
1430

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=386851
1370(you beat that)

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=565039
1290(you beat that)



any one beat these, will add this?
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Postby Blitzaholic on Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:31 pm

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:Top 5 scores All-Time

1. Blitzaholic................. 4386
2. Poo-maker.................4044
3. JR..............................3957
4. SkyT.........................3913
5. Yosevuk................... 3858



Top 5 team ranks all-time (70% win rate and higher)

1. Blitzaholic............... 4386
2. JR............................3957
3. SkyT.......................3913
4. Yosevuk................. 3858
5. Jork.........................3495





Top 5 with the most 5's

1. Blitzaholic......................... 27
2. JR..................................... 16
3. Gibbom..............................8
3. Alstergren......................... 8
5. Fireside Poet..................... 7



Top 5 to reach 3.5K most times

1. Blitzaholic...................... 15
2. JR.................................... 4
3. Comic boy...................... 3
3. Sjnap............................. 3
5. Skyt............................... 2
5. Warsteiner..................... 2





Top 5 + feedbacks

1. JR....................................442
2. Clapper............................ 370
3. Jaseleo..............................345
4. Blitzaholic..........................335
5. AAfitz................................ 291





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Postby Blitzaholic on Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:34 pm

sully800 wrote:
DiM wrote:
AAFitz wrote:its figured by posting... like you say its flawed, but its less flawed.


what do you mean by posting?
if i post now i have a 50 wins streak do you take my word and put me on the top 5?

in order to verify if i'm lying or not you'd have to go through each of my games and chect the ending times and then sort them and see how many wins i really have. with my 400 games it can be done but with johnny's 5000 it's impossible so even if he comes and says he has 100 wins in a row i'd still rather believe him than check his games. :lol:


It's a simple Boy Who Cried Wolf scenario. If you make a claim that someone doesn't believe, they will probably check up on it. If your claim is false you probably won't be considered for future Top 5's since its been shown that you lie about them.

A win streak should definitely be considered by finishing time of the games, since that is what determines whether you won or not. Sure its an easy thing to lie about, but if someone is going to lie about an unofficial achievement on CC then they are even lamer than the people who cheat to get the "official" achievement of a higher score.



this is how it is, by time games finished, and you can lie but also get caught, the time is recorded, so can find easy enough with investigation, but would be time consuming.
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Postby DiM on Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:36 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:Top 5 team ranks all-time (70% win rate and higher)

1. Blitzaholic............... 4386
2. JR............................3957
3. SkyT.......................3913
4. Yosevuk................. 3858
5. Jork.........................3495





i'd like to argue with this top 5.
a 70% win reate doesn't make you a team player just as a 40% win rate doesn't make you a singles player.

johnny has over 1000 points profit solely from 1v1 freestyle games. take those points and he would be far far away from that top 5. also his win rate in team games is much lower than his win rate in 1v1 freestyle.

kinda screwed up top 5 if you ask me.

same goes for the top 5 singles (under 40%)

in theory one could get to that top 5 by playing only 1v1 games. with a 70% win rate or bigger. so he would be considered one of the best team players when in fact he hasn't even played a team game
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Postby Blitzaholic on Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:38 pm

DiM wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:Top 5 team ranks all-time (70% win rate and higher)

1. Blitzaholic............... 4386
2. JR............................3957
3. SkyT.......................3913
4. Yosevuk................. 3858
5. Jork.........................3495





i'd like to argue with this top 5.
a 70% win reate doesn't make you a team player just as a 40% win rate doesn't make you a singles player.

johnny has over 1000 points profit solely from 1v1 freestyle games. take those points and he would be far far away from that top 5. also his win rate in team games is much lower than his win rate in 1v1 freestyle.

kinda screwed up top 5 if you ask me.

same goes for the top 5 singles (under 40%)



I thought JR lost 1000 points in 1 on 1 games?


you saying he won over 1000 that way and his score should be 2700 not 3700?
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Postby DiM on Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:42 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:
DiM wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:Top 5 team ranks all-time (70% win rate and higher)

1. Blitzaholic............... 4386
2. JR............................3957
3. SkyT.......................3913
4. Yosevuk................. 3858
5. Jork.........................3495





i'd like to argue with this top 5.
a 70% win reate doesn't make you a team player just as a 40% win rate doesn't make you a singles player.

johnny has over 1000 points profit solely from 1v1 freestyle games. take those points and he would be far far away from that top 5. also his win rate in team games is much lower than his win rate in 1v1 freestyle.

kinda screwed up top 5 if you ask me.

same goes for the top 5 singles (under 40%)



I thought JR lost 1000 points in 1 on 1 games?


you saying he won over 1000 that way and his score should be 2700 not 3700?


jr always keeps saying he's lost hundreds of points in 1v1 freestyle games. there was a huge argument over this (probably that's when he put me on his ignore list) and i was saying he's a good player but not as good as he claims to be because he takes advantage of 1v1 freestyle vs new recruits and cooks. then he claimed he lost lots of points. treefiddy did a mighty fine job of looking through all the 1v1 games johnny had and did the math. 1100 points profit. :wink:

think about it. in his last 100 games he had 2 losses and 98 wins. 2 losses = 200 points lost. 98 wins = 400+ points. profit of 200 just from his last 100 games.

he never responded to that post despite being asked several times. he's a good player but a poor sport that doesn't like when he's caught lying.

i'll try to find the post treefiddy made
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Postby Blitzaholic on Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:47 pm

DiM wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
DiM wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:Top 5 team ranks all-time (70% win rate and higher)

1. Blitzaholic............... 4386
2. JR............................3957
3. SkyT.......................3913
4. Yosevuk................. 3858
5. Jork.........................3495





i'd like to argue with this top 5.
a 70% win reate doesn't make you a team player just as a 40% win rate doesn't make you a singles player.

johnny has over 1000 points profit solely from 1v1 freestyle games. take those points and he would be far far away from that top 5. also his win rate in team games is much lower than his win rate in 1v1 freestyle.

kinda screwed up top 5 if you ask me.

same goes for the top 5 singles (under 40%)



I thought JR lost 1000 points in 1 on 1 games?


you saying he won over 1000 that way and his score should be 2700 not 3700?


jr always keeps saying he's lost hundreds of points in 1v1 freestyle games. there was a huge argument over this (probably that's when he put me on his ignore list) and i was saying he's a good player but not as good as he claims to be because he takes advantage of 1v1 freestyle vs new recruits and cooks. then he claimed he lost lots of points. treefiddy did a mighty fine job of looking through all the 1v1 games johnny had and did the math. 1100 points profit. :wink:

think about it. in his last 100 games he had 2 losses and 98 wins. 2 losses = 200 points lost. 98 wins = 400+ points. profit of 200 just from his last 100 games.

he never responded to that post despite being asked several times. he's a good player but a poor sport that doesn't like when he's caught lying.

i'll try to find the post treefiddy made



well i joined 2 of his games and won both of them during his 100 streak he claimed, so he does not always play noobs.


not sure why he says he lost 1000 if he won 1100????????????????????


if tree did the math, did jr see it? or make adding error? i think i remember this now, but forgot how it turned out, perplexed i guess :?
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Postby DiM on Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:55 pm

it turned out like this. when confronted with true facts johnny never responded. then he was confronted several more times. same result no response. look i'll post again that same quote. johnny is a regular of this thread because he like being on lists so he'll surely see this post. wanna bet he's not gonna answer? or even better he's gonna call me a noob again and some other nice words.
as you can see bellow on the 2nd of september johnny claims he has lost ~375 points when in fact treefiddy proves him wrong and shows everybody he gained almost 1000 by abusing freestyle.

original thread here: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=665943&highlight=games#665943

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JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:609-57 ( 91%)

609 wins at 5 points per game is 3045
57 loses at 60 points per lost is 3420

net gain is -375

I did the work for you this time because I recall how much trouble you had prior to this.



Of course you did the "work" for me, because you're lying and you know it. I had already done the work, as listed above. All you did was make me double check my work. I did miss two of your losses which puts you 124 points more into the hole than you were before.

Were you counting your sequential losses? You do realize that those have absolutely nothing to do with you abusing the freestyle system, right? I should also like to point out that your winning percentage is only 57% in sequential, which just happens to be a perfectly fair enviroment that you cannot abuse. Perhaps this is a true light on how good of a player you really are?

You've lost a total of 2380 points in 1v1 freestyle. This is an average of less than 53 points per loss, not an "average of 60 per loss", because you didn't have 3500 points the entire time. I counted the point loss from all your lost games; this is accurate, feel free to double check me.

Like I said in my earlier post, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt on the average points per game. When you started freestyle, the point changes are that of someone with only ~2500 points.

And sense you're too dense to understand all this, let me break it down for you. I checked your losses on every page. With 100 results per page, it was very easy to track your wins since you lose so infrequently. That was until I got to page 6 where you lost several times.

(Points gained based on 6 points per win average)
Page 1 - 576 - 255
Page 2 - 594 - 72
Page 3 - 564 - 387
Page 4 - 582 - 220
Page 5 - 564 - 391
Page 6 - 498 - 673
Page 7 - 300 - 382 (58 games on this page)

Apparently the "LEET" Johnnyrocket24 didn't know how to abuse the system yet. It's amazing how your losses came down considerably once you learned how to cheat -err- "take advantage of freestyle". So take out the first 158 games, and it's clear that you've gained a substantial amount of points from abusing the system.

So while you say that you've lost 300 points, the reality of this is that you've gained nearly 1,000 points off abusing the system. All so you can put your name at the top of any list that you make as a form of autofellatio.

I honestly can't wait for the defacto double turn to be fixed so I can watch your points dwindle away.
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Postby Blitzaholic on Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:13 pm

DiM wrote:it turned out like this. when confronted with true facts johnny never responded. then he was confronted several more times. same result no response. look i'll post again that same quote. johnny is a regular of this thread because he like being on lists so he'll surely see this post. wanna bet he's not gonna answer? or even better he's gonna call me a noob again and some other nice words.
as you can see bellow on the 2nd of september johnny claims he has lost ~375 points when in fact treefiddy proves him wrong and shows everybody he gained almost 1000 by abusing freestyle.

original thread here: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=665943&highlight=games#665943

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JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:609-57 ( 91%)

609 wins at 5 points per game is 3045
57 loses at 60 points per lost is 3420

net gain is -375

I did the work for you this time because I recall how much trouble you had prior to this.



Of course you did the "work" for me, because you're lying and you know it. I had already done the work, as listed above. All you did was make me double check my work. I did miss two of your losses which puts you 124 points more into the hole than you were before.

Were you counting your sequential losses? You do realize that those have absolutely nothing to do with you abusing the freestyle system, right? I should also like to point out that your winning percentage is only 57% in sequential, which just happens to be a perfectly fair enviroment that you cannot abuse. Perhaps this is a true light on how good of a player you really are?

You've lost a total of 2380 points in 1v1 freestyle. This is an average of less than 53 points per loss, not an "average of 60 per loss", because you didn't have 3500 points the entire time. I counted the point loss from all your lost games; this is accurate, feel free to double check me.

Like I said in my earlier post, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt on the average points per game. When you started freestyle, the point changes are that of someone with only ~2500 points.

And sense you're too dense to understand all this, let me break it down for you. I checked your losses on every page. With 100 results per page, it was very easy to track your wins since you lose so infrequently. That was until I got to page 6 where you lost several times.

(Points gained based on 6 points per win average)
Page 1 - 576 - 255
Page 2 - 594 - 72
Page 3 - 564 - 387
Page 4 - 582 - 220
Page 5 - 564 - 391
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Apparently the "LEET" Johnnyrocket24 didn't know how to abuse the system yet. It's amazing how your losses came down considerably once you learned how to cheat -err- "take advantage of freestyle". So take out the first 158 games, and it's clear that you've gained a substantial amount of points from abusing the system.

So while you say that you've lost 300 points, the reality of this is that you've gained nearly 1,000 points off abusing the system. All so you can put your name at the top of any list that you make as a form of autofellatio.

I honestly can't wait for the defacto double turn to be fixed so I can watch your points dwindle away.



and he never responded?
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Postby DiM on Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:21 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:and he never responded?


nope. not even once :roll:

there's not much he can say actually. those are the results from his games. anybody with some free time can check them and do the math. i guess he was hopping he'd get away with lying because nobody would simply search so many games. :wink:
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Postby Blitzaholic on Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:36 pm

DiM wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:and he never responded?


nope. not even once :roll:

there's not much he can say actually. those are the results from his games. anybody with some free time can check them and do the math. i guess he was hopping he'd get away with lying because nobody would simply search so many games. :wink:



WoW :shock:

perhaps you should become a private investigator


I hear that pays well $$$ :lol:
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Postby DiM on Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:38 pm

nah, it doesn't attract me at all. i'd much rather pursue an artistic. i've fancied poetry quite a lot. got a few hundred of them at home. never published though. just a few appearances on radio. also cooking is my passion. i make a great fish stuffed with veggies and my lamb steak is famous. but for the moment i'm stuck as a manager :P
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