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[lord voldemort]

100 pages on day 2...we need to act or this game is just gonna die

[F1fth]

Since we're all listing suspects...

- ExplainThis very likely is an actor and therefore very likely town.
- AD seems to be on the same page as me in many respects, which looks good to me. I interpreted his vote on ET as an accusation of submarining too, but it seems that may just be a difference of playing styles.
- Skoffin: I was about to say she had gone back to her submarining ways, but then she came back and posted something substantial. Given her name claim, I am inclined to trust her for now.
- Diddle: I find his behavior more scummy than not, but his name claim seems solid, thus benefit of the doubt.
- Nagerous: quiet and therefore hard to read, but I agree with most things he said.
I don't think I'll vote for any of these at this point.

- F1fth looks most scummy to me at this point. I find his reasoning throughout the thread unconvincing and over the top, both when he's defending people and when he's attacking them.
- Iliad comes in second in the Scummy Top Whatever. The fact that he sort of backed off after my reply to his accusations pleads for him, but it might just be a strategic acknowledgement that my lynch isn't going to happen and that pursuing it would draw unwanted attention to him.
These two I'll vote for if there is a chance of lynching them.

- Talapus, Crab, Sierra Leon, Mandy and Brown-ng: various degrees of possibly scummy vibes, but no real proof against any of them.
These are lynches that I might support to end the day, but they're not my first choice.

The rest of you, I don't really have an idea about.

Wow, you must be pretty special to think that anybody would accuse you of being scum is scummy themselves. Notice how I'm your #1 and I've also been the one to make the best points about your scumminess? Iliad accused you and now he's #2?

You've still done nothing to disprove the fact that you look scummy except call me scummy.

Anyway, I agree with the "Clive = Idiot, Idiot =/= Scum" group. As annoying as it is to see him vote for someone just because someone else did, and he doesn't like the person, it's still not reason enough to lynch him with no apparent deadline in sight.

[kwanton]

A vote on clive will just be another wasted lynch? Anyone who suggests lynching him or diddle is coming accross as quite scummy as it will just means we've wasted the day and the progress we've made. Thats partly why I'm considering dropping a vote on talapus, purely because he would rather lynch the idiots as opposed to the potential scums.

Anyways, I'm happy lynching tal, mandy, brown or crab today. They are my favourites for the chop. Also, sierra is playing the role of overly helpful townie considering the amount of spare time he appears to have that he can evaluate every comment I've made in this game. The fact hes pushing against me however, makes me naturally suspicious of him and his real motives. Also, the thing he actually accused me for I feel naturally justified in as I will always push for claims before someone is lynched and make sure people don't hammer before the claim etc.

Everyone! Listen to nag. This is pretty much what I said before but better put.

[Koesen]

You've still done nothing to disprove the fact that you look scummy except call me scummy.

I have dedicated several long posts to explaining all of my so called suspicious actions. The fact that you have managed to miss all of them them does nothing to reduce my suspicion of you.

It's not about you voting for me. Brown-ng voted me too and he's not very high on my list of suspects. Another little fact that you conveniently ignore in your witch hunt against me.

It's about the way you are going after me. You have not a shred of evidence against me. I responded to every single accusation thrown against me, to the satisfacting of the overwhelming majority of players. You simply pretend that didn't happen.

It is you who doesn't do anything to disprove suspicion. I asked you and others who thought I shouldn't go after people what your pro town alternative was. No answer. You want to let the submariners submarine, although you know that town will suffer for it.

I pointed out that when people come with a convincing claim, I unvote. Unlike you who voted not just once but twice for a townie with a convincing claim, and then refused to look at his bandwagon because you are so sure there is no evidence there at all.

I don't have as much of an impression of you as a mafia player as of, say, Mandy, but the rigid and unreasonable behavior you are displaying in this game doesn't fit the image that I do have of you. And in my experience, when usually reasonable people are suddenly hellbent on lynching someone for no reason, they're often scum.

Vote F1fth

[CrabNebula]

Jester?

Why does it happen that whenever someone acts unusually odd (scummy odd more like), someone brings up "JESTER!"?

[Koesen]

Because lynching a jester is the worst way to end a game.

[nagerous]

I have never seen the lynch of a jester end the game.


Also, if gimpy made respectable settings this game probably doesn't have jester settings. Speaking from a failed jester three times, lets just drop the jester talk.

[CrabNebula]

Because lynching a jester is the worst way to end a game.

I'd rather have Jester win than mafia!

[mandalorian2298]

Because lynching a jester is the worst way to end a game.

I'd rather have Jester win than mafia!

You would rather lose then lose?

Anyways, I agree with Nagerus' list of suspects. I don't buy browng's Mayor claim and I don't believe that Mayor brovng is a good thing for the Town anyway (he has equal chances of blocking a Scum lynch as he has of blocking the Town Lynch). So lynch browng, cocksuckers and if he is pro-Town, you can lynch the next candidate on Nag's list (AKA as me) tommorow.

[CrabNebula]

Actually its diddle who claimed Mayor not browng.

[Koesen]

Actually its diddle who claimed Mayor not browng.

That is correct, but I bet that from Mandy's point of view, it means there's even less reason not to lynch him

[ExplainThis]

@diddle, then ask now please.

@nagerous, Ive given up trying to place that avatar who are you on other forums?

@lord 100 pages at 9 ppp for a game this size is about or less then a regular day one from where I started playing I hardly see it killing the game (now 2 month day 1's those kill games)

@ad point out the question(s) I have yet to answer or unvote me, or at least admit you have no reason to vote me.

[gimpyThewonder]

ok you cocksuckers there is 1 week left for this day (I did say a 2 week max on days). Don't feel rushed or anything, just letting ya know.

Also my grandmother is in town visiting so i will be able to do less votecounts (ie don't expect them daily)

[Anarkistsdream]

@diddle, then ask now please.

@nagerous, Ive given up trying to place that avatar who are you on other forums?

@lord 100 pages at 9 ppp for a game this size is about or less then a regular day one from where I started playing I hardly see it killing the game (now 2 month day 1's those kill games)

@ad point out the question(s) I have yet to answer or unvote me, or at least admit you have no reason to vote me.

I went back to quote the question and talk shit to you, and then I realized you already did and I missed it.



Unvote

[lord voldemort]

10 ppp. and usually a whole game is a goood 130 odd pages....day 2 and we are 102...this is unusually long for this site.
nagerous doesnt do other forums btw...thought id answer for him

[Koesen]

I'd like some of the quiet people to contribute more. Russianfire, Pancake, LSU, Lalaland...

I'm not saying you're all scum and I'm sure some of you have good reasons, but the fact is that those of us who do most of the talking can only go so far by ourselves, and the game would benefit from more activity.

I think we've reached a point where, unless there's some fresh input, the game is going to stall.

[nagerous]

The dog avatar lol is taken straight from msn.

[pancakemix]

Since a reply has been requested and I've taken care of my other duties, I'll post now. Additions below.

Since we're all listing suspects...

- ExplainThis very likely is an actor and therefore very likely town.

Agreed. But of course, people here are crazy, and will change anything for a twist. We can't let our guard down.

- AD seems to be on the same page as me in many respects, which looks good to me. I interpreted his vote on ET as an accusation of submarining too, but it seems that may just be a difference of playing styles.

I agree that that might have been what he was thinking, but unless AD says anything, I don't know.

One thing I will say: I know how much AD hates submarining, but he might be overdoing it a bit. Scum makes up a minority of players in a game unless you have a crazy game (See TRUAMGOT I), and I don't think this is a crazy game. So if scum is 5 people out of 30 (16%) and there are 6 submariners with 1 person trying to whip everyone into shape, what are the chances, in a random draw, that 1 of those submariners is scum? What are the chances that the whipper is scum?

I'm not condemning the practice of whipping submariners, I'm just not sure about AD's intents, so Mini FOS AD

- Diddle: I find his behavior more scummy than not, but his name claim seems solid, thus benefit of the doubt.

Like I said earlier, if he doesn't care, forget about him. Gimpy's got enough trouble replacing people already. BTW, Mod, prods would be a good idea.

- Nagerous: quiet and therefore hard to read, but I agree with most things he said.I don't think I'll vote for any of these at this point.

I agree, too little to tell, but since he, as I understand, was away, it's excused, and since then, he's said some good things.

- Iliad comes in second in the Scummy Top Whatever. The fact that he sort of backed off after my reply to his accusations pleads for him, but it might just be a strategic acknowledgment that my lynch isn't going to happen and that pursuing it would draw unwanted attention to him.

This quote makes you sound pretty confident in your townieness, Koesen. I recall someone saying something to the effect that you were leading the inquisition. Remember, people, last time we let Koesen lead the inquisition,he screwed us over.

Joking aside, I don't think we can trust Koesen entirely until there's conclusive proof. And you can't actually get 100% conclusive proof. I'm not saying don't trust him, just make sure you're sure about him.

- Talapus, Crab, Sierra Leon, Mandy and Brown-ng: various degrees of possibly scummy vibes, but no real proof against any of them.

Talapus, as I said earlier, needs to back off on the stupidwagons.

Brown, I've also addressed earlier. I'll also support a lynch for him given the opportunity.

Sierra, I think is overanalyzing people. Analysis is good, but highlighting details that don't matter to you? That's a bit much.

Crab and Mandy I haven't picked up much on, which is odd, especially for mandy. I'd watch him.

That's about all I have to say for now. If you have any questions, PM me so I can report you to the mod for breaking the rules and get you modkilled for being dumb.

[ExplainThis]

Since a reply has been requested and I've taken care of my other duties, I'll post now. Additions below.

Since we're all listing suspects...

- ExplainThis very likely is an actor and therefore very likely town.

Agreed. But of course, people here are crazy, and will change anything for a twist. We can't let our guard down.

- AD seems to be on the same page as me in many respects, which looks good to me. I interpreted his vote on ET as an accusation of submarining too, but it seems that may just be a difference of playing styles.

I agree that that might have been what he was thinking, but unless AD says anything, I don't know.

One thing I will say: I know how much AD hates submarining, but he might be overdoing it a bit. Scum makes up a minority of players in a game unless you have a crazy game (See TRUAMGOT I), and I don't think this is a crazy game. So if scum is 5 people out of 30 (16%) and there are 6 submariners with 1 person trying to whip everyone into shape, what are the chances, in a random draw, that 1 of those submariners is scum? What are the chances that the whipper is scum?

I'm not condemning the practice of whipping submariners, I'm just not sure about AD's intents, so Mini FOS AD

- Diddle: I find his behavior more scummy than not, but his name claim seems solid, thus benefit of the doubt.

Like I said earlier, if he doesn't care, forget about him. Gimpy's got enough trouble replacing people already. BTW, Mod, prods would be a good idea.

- Nagerous: quiet and therefore hard to read, but I agree with most things he said.I don't think I'll vote for any of these at this point.

I agree, too little to tell, but since he, as I understand, was away, it's excused, and since then, he's said some good things.

- Iliad comes in second in the Scummy Top Whatever. The fact that he sort of backed off after my reply to his accusations pleads for him, but it might just be a strategic acknowledgment that my lynch isn't going to happen and that pursuing it would draw unwanted attention to him.

This quote makes you sound pretty confident in your townieness, Koesen. I recall someone saying something to the effect that you were leading the inquisition. Remember, people, last time we let Koesen lead the inquisition,he screwed us over.

Joking aside, I don't think we can trust Koesen entirely until there's conclusive proof. And you can't actually get 100% conclusive proof. I'm not saying don't trust him, just make sure you're sure about him.

- Talapus, Crab, Sierra Leon, Mandy and Brown-ng: various degrees of possibly scummy vibes, but no real proof against any of them.

Talapus, as I said earlier, needs to back off on the stupidwagons.

Brown, I've also addressed earlier. I'll also support a lynch for him given the opportunity.

Sierra, I think is overanalyzing people. Analysis is good, but highlighting details that don't matter to you? That's a bit much.

Crab and Mandy I haven't picked up much on, which is odd, especially for mandy. I'd watch him.

That's about all I have to say for now. If you have any questions, PM me so I can report you to the mod for breaking the rules and get you modkilled for being dumb.

^someone who actually sounds like he's played mafia before^ (no offense to everyone else here)

[gimpyThewonder]

i'll try to get some prods out there in the next few days

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Ok I just got done rereading all of Day 2. My initial thoughts were that BrownG, Fifth, and Iliad are the scummiest of that group. Knowing how the game was progressing and how day 1 went down, I have for the most part felt pretty comfortible in that Koesen was town as he was along the same wave length for many thoughts I have had while rereading this mess. While Fifth does the focus on Koesen so far, I don't think he is the scummiest on this day. I believe that falls on BrownG who hasn't really helped much in this game other then follow Fifth around like a lap dog. Unvote Vote BrownG for this behavior. Iliad I still don't see why you're so focused on going after Koesen, but if BrownG or Fifth turn up as scum, you'll also be on my list for scumminess. Kwanton I'm glad to see is actually trying to contribute now although I'm still suspicious of him.

[kwanton]

Currently I'll also have to agree with those suspicious of mandy. Only slightly though. It seems he hasn't taken control of the game like he usually tries to do. Maybe it's cuz no one has actually made a strong enough argument against him to draw him out. Ah well, I think at this point we should just point out any odd behavior and see where it leads us. Maybe it'll help us with a lead or two.

[Iliad]

Since we're all listing suspects...

- ExplainThis very likely is an actor and therefore very likely town.
- AD seems to be on the same page as me in many respects, which looks good to me. I interpreted his vote on ET as an accusation of submarining too, but it seems that may just be a difference of playing styles.
- Skoffin: I was about to say she had gone back to her submarining ways, but then she came back and posted something substantial. Given her name claim, I am inclined to trust her for now.
- Diddle: I find his behavior more scummy than not, but his name claim seems solid, thus benefit of the doubt.
- Nagerous: quiet and therefore hard to read, but I agree with most things he said.
I don't think I'll vote for any of these at this point.

- F1fth looks most scummy to me at this point. I find his reasoning throughout the thread unconvincing and over the top, both when he's defending people and when he's attacking them.
- Iliad comes in second in the Scummy Top Whatever. The fact that he sort of backed off after my reply to his accusations pleads for him, but it might just be a strategic acknowledgement that my lynch isn't going to happen and that pursuing it would draw unwanted attention to him.
These two I'll vote for if there is a chance of lynching them.

- Talapus, Crab, Sierra Leon, Mandy and Brown-ng: various degrees of possibly scummy vibes, but no real proof against any of them.
These are lynches that I might support to end the day, but they're not my first choice.

The rest of you, I don't really have an idea about.

When I read it it looked scummy because I was reading with biased POV. Then you explained yourself and I with an unbiased POV unvoted.

I fail to see how that is scummy

[Iliad]

Because lynching a jester is the worst way to end a game.

it doesn't end the game, the game continues unless it's really small

[Iliad]

Since a reply has been requested and I've taken care of my other duties, I'll post now. Additions below.

Since we're all listing suspects...

- ExplainThis very likely is an actor and therefore very likely town.

Agreed. But of course, people here are crazy, and will change anything for a twist. We can't let our guard down.

- AD seems to be on the same page as me in many respects, which looks good to me. I interpreted his vote on ET as an accusation of submarining too, but it seems that may just be a difference of playing styles.

I agree that that might have been what he was thinking, but unless AD says anything, I don't know.

One thing I will say: I know how much AD hates submarining, but he might be overdoing it a bit. Scum makes up a minority of players in a game unless you have a crazy game (See TRUAMGOT I), and I don't think this is a crazy game. So if scum is 5 people out of 30 (16%) and there are 6 submariners with 1 person trying to whip everyone into shape, what are the chances, in a random draw, that 1 of those submariners is scum? What are the chances that the whipper is scum?

I'm not condemning the practice of whipping submariners, I'm just not sure about AD's intents, so Mini FOS AD

- Diddle: I find his behavior more scummy than not, but his name claim seems solid, thus benefit of the doubt.

Like I said earlier, if he doesn't care, forget about him. Gimpy's got enough trouble replacing people already. BTW, Mod, prods would be a good idea.

- Nagerous: quiet and therefore hard to read, but I agree with most things he said.I don't think I'll vote for any of these at this point.

I agree, too little to tell, but since he, as I understand, was away, it's excused, and since then, he's said some good things.

- Iliad comes in second in the Scummy Top Whatever. The fact that he sort of backed off after my reply to his accusations pleads for him, but it might just be a strategic acknowledgment that my lynch isn't going to happen and that pursuing it would draw unwanted attention to him.

This quote makes you sound pretty confident in your townieness, Koesen. I recall someone saying something to the effect that you were leading the inquisition. Remember, people, last time we let Koesen lead the inquisition,he screwed us over.

Joking aside, I don't think we can trust Koesen entirely until there's conclusive proof. And you can't actually get 100% conclusive proof. I'm not saying don't trust him, just make sure you're sure about him.

- Talapus, Crab, Sierra Leon, Mandy and Brown-ng: various degrees of possibly scummy vibes, but no real proof against any of them.

Talapus, as I said earlier, needs to back off on the stupidwagons.

Brown, I've also addressed earlier. I'll also support a lynch for him given the opportunity.

Sierra, I think is overanalyzing people. Analysis is good, but highlighting details that don't matter to you? That's a bit much.

Crab and Mandy I haven't picked up much on, which is odd, especially for mandy. I'd watch him.

That's about all I have to say for now. If you have any questions, PM me so I can report you to the mod for breaking the rules and get you modkilled for being dumb.

^someone who actually sounds like he's played mafia before^ (no offense to everyone else here)

yeah just say that we all can't play mafia, but no offense