[Abandoned] - Switzerland

[rocky mountain]

lets just say, i like it
the graphics are pretty good
does there have to be such a small gap in the mountains between Brig and Bern? Brig looks isolated from its continent even though I know its not. maybe open it up just a little more?
it looks almost as if Zug can't attack Schwyz. i think its because Zug's border is darker than the rest is, so it looks a bit more like an impassible. its not a big deal though.
is the background the alps? i like it.
are the borders outside the map the borders of other countries?
could the legend stand out a bit more? it blends in too much in my opinion.
thats all for now

[RjBeals]

• I think the biggest hurdle is still the colors. It's just too dull. I love how you blended them so they are kind of washed out looking. How about you scrap the image in the background, and just make it a real map, with real borders, and make it all a shade of red? or Gray? Look below for some alternatives.
• Your title is way too boring.
• On your bonus min-map, move the Bern 4 over to the right so it's more centered, and the same for the Graub. 2.
• Your army circles might need to be lighter on the purple romadie areas. I think gray armies might be difficult to see on that dark area.
• You need to work on your signature. It looks bad.
• Could you move the entire map down and to the left? It looks like there's room, and then you wouldn't be butting up against your bonus region names in the upper right, or the title in the upper left.
• The mountains are starting to grow on me. Maybe I've just starred at them too much - but I'm starting to like them.
• Something still looks funny about the lake in Neuchatel.
• That lake in the center of the green area looks like an out of place triangle also.

You're getting close Kap. I think with the right color scheme, the foundry will be pleased.

[Kaplowitz]

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• I think the biggest hurdle is still the colors. It's just too dull. I love how you blended them so they are kind of washed out looking. How about you scrap the image in the background, and just make it a real map, with real borders, and make it all a shade of red? or Gray? Look below for some alternatives.
  
  What do you mean about a real map with real borders? Do you want me to get rid of the complicated BG, and work harder on showing the surrounding countries?
  
• Your title is way too boring.
  
  Ill play with it.
  
• On your bonus min-map, move the Bern 4 over to the right so it's more centered, and the same for the Graub. 2.
  
  sure
  
• Your army circles might need to be lighter on the purple romadie areas. I think gray armies might be difficult to see on that dark area.
  
  Ill check to see what they look like, and ill make necessary adjustments
  
• You need to work on your signature. It looks bad.
  
  I will
  
• Could you move the entire map down and to the left? It looks like there's room, and then you wouldn't be butting up against your bonus region names in the upper right, or the title in the upper left.
  
  Ill see what it looks like
  
• The mountains are starting to grow on me. Maybe I've just starred at them too much - but I'm starting to like them.
  
  That makes two of us! Thanks
  
• Something still looks funny about the lake in Neuchatel.
  
  Im trying to make it as realistic as possible...ill keep working on it.
  

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• That lake in the center of the green area looks like an out of place triangle also.

Ill work on it

You're getting close Kap. I think with the right color scheme, the foundry will be pleased.




Ill post the map with each color scheme ^^^ Those are nice!

Thanks!

[RjBeals]

You don't have to use those colors and post them in a map. I was just flashing them for a visual. I think it's just the background of your map, which makes it dull. By real map, I was simply suggesting taking out the cross and background, and putting the surrounding land and borders in. Maybe add some of your smooth color scheme into it also. Y

[rocky mountain]

you didn't comment on my comments... (right above Rj's)

[Kaplowitz]

lets just say, i like it
the graphics are pretty good
1)does there have to be such a small gap in the mountains between Brig and Bern? Brig looks isolated from its continent even though I know its not. maybe open it up just a little more?
2)it looks almost as if Zug can't attack Schwyz. i think its because Zug's border is darker than the rest is, so it looks a bit more like an impassible. its not a big deal though.
3)is the background the alps? i like it.
4)are the borders outside the map the borders of other countries?
5)could the legend stand out a bit more? it blends in too much in my opinion.
thats all for now

1) good idea, i see where you are coming from
2) For better differentiation of continents, i made continent borders thicker. I could remove that if you think it would help.
3)Me too, but a lot of others dont...we'll see what happens to that.
4)Yup. Im going to make them more recognizable
5)It will be next version, thanks

Sorry about that, i missed it. I thought i had read them all

[Ogrecrusher]

I much prefer a map with the surrounding countries as context, as opposed to a floating map with background like you have here.

[AndyDufresne]

I think, as RJ mentioned, the right color scheme can certainly go a long ways. I also agree with Ogre...I've never been a fan of hovering maps. I like my landlocked landmasses...well...locked in land.


--Andy

[oaktown]

there's nothing wrong with the game play

I tend to agree. As you work on the graphics you should try to give the borders a bit more space - the Bern to Brig attack route could easily be bigger, and as it is you could overlook it. And Geneva needs something to make it more obvious - it's like Sri Lanka in both the Asia and World 2.0 maps, I always think I have the region wrapped up and then I realize I forgot one terit.

[pamoa]

... the Bern to Brig attack route could easily be bigger, and as it is you could overlook it. And Geneva needs something to make it more obvious - it's like Sri Lanka in both the Asia and World 2.0 maps, I always think I have the region wrapped up and then I realize I forgot one terit.

the Bern Brig attack route is only a pass in real world, I think it's important it still look like that.
For Geneva, I don't think one would have the "missing Sri Lanka problem" as it is a small map and the name and army circle are pretty obvious. Btw it also happen to me in World 2.0

[Kaplowitz]

WHICH BG DO YOU LIKE THE BEST?

GRAY (my fav):

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RED:

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FLAGS:

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I made all of the changes (i think) except i didnt add any more mts or rivers. I plan to, i just wanted to get these BG changes out there.

Also, how do you like the yellow.

[multiplayertim]

like the flags version and the yellow looks much better

[rocky mountain]

i do like the gray, but i also want the countries switzerland borders to be shown. i know the borders are there, but they're really hard to see. so is the title! i can't read anything on it! (ok that was a lie, but its really hard to see. don't make it so invisible!)
yes the yellow does look better.
your name is also hard to see...

[Kaplowitz]

i do like the gray, but i also want the countries switzerland borders to be shown. i know the borders are there, but they're really hard to see. so is the title! i can't read anything on it! (ok that was a lie, but its really hard to see. don't make it so invisible!)
yes the yellow does look better.
your name is also hard to see...

I can make easily make it better
My name is supposed to be hard to see

[pamoa]

For my part red background is better, but please not the flags.
If american people need some more geographical information just use an other font and write down the 4 country names.

Just a tiny detail the white cross into the title shouldn't touch the side of your frame as the Swiss cross do not, else it would be a Savoy or Scandinavian one.

[Ruben Cassar]

Flags version is a mess. Don't use it.

The other two versions are better however why not use different colours for the surrounding states to differentiate Italy's borders from those of France, Germany and Austria?

[RjBeals]

This red version has my vote. The colors blend very well together. I think you seriously need to start work on the title and the bonus region names. Then you've got yourself a winner.

[BrianHoef]

Frankly, I'm not a huge fan of any of the backgrounds. Reasons:

Gray - too bland, too dark, too boring, and the other countries' borders just look like obscure lines you dropped in for no apparent reason; I had to read the posts to figure out that they had a purpose.

Red - makes me think of the Nile running red with blood, which is very un-Swiss. also, same border problem.

Flags - too busy, although it does handle the issue of the borders.


Here's my two cents: start with the gray background, label the other countries in a different font, and add low-opacity layers with different colors for the other countries on top. It'll be less busy than the flags, less bland than the gray, and less biblical than the red. compromise position.


Incidentally, this is my favorite map in the Foundry.

[pamoa]

... background ... Red - makes me think of the Nile running red with blood, which is very un-Swiss. also, same border problem... and less biblical than the red...

Do you find the swiss flag biblical ? You know the white cross on a red background !

[Kaplowitz]

Frankly, I'm not a huge fan of any of the backgrounds. Reasons:

Gray - too bland, too dark, too boring, and the other countries' borders just look like obscure lines you dropped in for no apparent reason; I had to read the posts to figure out that they had a purpose.

Red - makes me think of the Nile running red with blood, which is very un-Swiss. also, same border problem.

Flags - too busy, although it does handle the issue of the borders.


Here's my two cents: start with the gray background, label the other countries in a different font, and add low-opacity layers with different colors for the other countries on top. It'll be less busy than the flags, less bland than the gray, and less biblical than the red. compromise position.


Incidentally, this is my favorite map in the Foundry.

I'll try it out

[Kaplowitz]

v24

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Can we all agree on this BG?

[Ruben Cassar]

v24

Can we all agree on this BG?

I like this one Kap!

[ZeakCytho]

v24

Can we all agree on this BG?

I like this one Kap!

I like it very much!

[mibi]

v24

Can we all agree on this BG?

I like this one Kap!

I like it very much!

I don't. It kinda looks like a quilt.

[bryguy]

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Can we all agree on this BG?

I like this one Kap!

I like it very much!

I don't. It kinda looks like a quilt.

sadly kap i have to agree with mibi. But it looks like one of my grannies quilts