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AAFitz wrote:My point here is this. By all means believe in whatever you want to believe in..god, santa, membrane theory or evolution...but never close your mind to other possibilities, because the odds of all of your beliefs being correct at any given time, are extremely unlikely... and though it may be scary not to know where everything and everyone came from, closing your mind to the possibilities, and discouraging those possibilities in others, is perhaps the most dangerous thing the human race can do. And above all else, dont give up searching for the answers, just because they seem too difficult to discover.
Artimis wrote:
Exactly so. A doctor at the hospital I work in told me that in the practice of medicine: "The lifespan of new medical facts is approximately 50 years." That means that if after 50 years it hasn't been disproved then it's very unlikely to get disproved in the future. The more I think about it the more that particular rule of thumb applies to other scientific facts. But don't worry, 500 years after Columbus proved the world was round it's not suddenly going to snap back flat again, because it's already withstood the first 50 years of scrutiny! Not the mention how much that would screw up any given space program's launch trajectories!That all said, I'm in complete agreement with AAFitz that we should question everything at least once, even the obvious.
deceangli wrote:The key point in this whole debate, which seems to keep getting lost in the various sidetracking, is that evolution is a strong (albeit challenging) theory with a massive range of supporting evidence. I'm sure our evolutionary thinking will develop over time, but it seems very unlikely that the core ideas will go - rather, that we will come to understand the mechansisms better.
On the other hand we have a small band of very vocal Christian sect members - since most Christian churches don't have a difficulty with evolution - trying to tell us that evolution is wrong because it conflicts with their rather barmy interpretation of a set of archaeological texts which are, themselves, contradictory. Seems a waste of everybody's time and energy, really.
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saxitoxin wrote:Your position is more complex than the federal tax code. As soon as I think I understand it, I find another index of cross-references, exceptions and amendments I have to apply.
Timminz wrote:Yo mama is so classless, she could be a Marxist utopia.
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If they want to teach creationism in schools, then let them do it under the banner of R.E.(Religious Education) But I find it insulting to my intelligence that they want to teach it along side evolution as a 'science'. It is not science, never was and never will be.
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If they want to teach creationism in schools, then let them do it under the banner of R.E.(Religious Education) But I find it insulting to my intelligence that they want to teach it along side evolution as a 'science'. It is not science, never was and never will be.
Exactly. It's not like the Bible is some sort of alternative to established, documented scientific theories. How exactly do you teach creationism in science? Read Genesis? Say "others feel that God did it, and that science is some anti-Christian conspiracy"? It's ridiculous, you can't expound on something with no factual evidence backing it up. Plus, on a more personal level, I have a lot of non-Christian friends who, like me, would pretty much be arguing every point made.
jonesthecurl wrote:Hmm - they seem to favour an expanding universe (created as already expanding of course). Quite how galaxies that are millions of light-years away (and whose light has taken millions of years to reach us) accord with a creation a few thousand years ago, I fail to understand.
Even einstien's theory of gravity, that massive objects bend space and time, and the subsequent space pushes the object, which counters newton's explanation of gravity works mathematically, but still takes a leap of faith...and isnt fully proven, beyond the fact that the equations to work.
Frigidus wrote:Plus, on a more personal level, I have a lot of non-Christian friends who, like me, would pretty much be arguing every point made.
jonesthecurl wrote:Hmm - they seem to favour an expanding universe (created as already expanding of course). Quite how galaxies that are millions of light-years away (and whose light has taken millions of years to reach us) accord with a creation a few thousand years ago, I fail to understand.
Teaching is a ministry for men and women of faith.
that premise actually precludes the possibility of carbon-based life anywhere else in the universe, but that argument aside, we already know that the environment on Mars is not suitable for life of any kind, so the only option here is fossils of bacterial life forms.
The real issue at hand is the actual impossibility of life spontaneously generating itself from non-living materials. I can tell you from my 30 plus years in the Kingdom two things.
1) Jesus of Nazareth is the promised Messiah who came according to the Scriptures, died and was raised from the dead on the third day for the forgiveness of sins, according to Scriptures.
2) Nothing will be discovered that will in any way contradict or nullify God’s Holy Word. The Living Word of God, Messiah Jesus, is THE Truth and the written Word of God is also THE Truth. He, and therefore His written revelation are completely trustworthy.
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