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A suggestion to all the dice complainers

Postby Georgerx7di on Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:22 pm

If you're going to keep complaining, and you really believe that your dice are unfair, at least be a little scientific about it. Get a piece of paper and a pen, and log your rolls.

Like this:

Win 2:

Win 1 loose 1:

Loose 2:

Leave space between each, and start logging every roll. You can just make lines, and put the slash through every fifth time. (note, this is slightly different from a dice analyzer, which just tells you how many 6's, how many 5's, etc. This would tell you how many times you win 2, etc)

I would be amazed if anyone did this for 200 rolls and still complained about their dice. Feel free to post your results here, after at least 100 rolls logged. I'm curious to see too.
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Re: A suggestion to all the dice complainers

Postby mibi on Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:37 pm

There is a script for this.
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Re: A suggestion to all the dice complainers

Postby Georgerx7di on Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:45 pm

mibi wrote:There is a script for this.


Other than the dice analyzer? One that counts rolls won and lost?
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Re: A suggestion to all the dice complainers

Postby captainwalrus on Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:46 pm

Yeah but having them do it by hand makes them realize that it is not worth it so they should just shut up and deal.
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Re: A suggestion to all the dice complainers

Postby Timminz on Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:50 pm

Georgerx7di wrote:
mibi wrote:There is a script for this.


Other than the dice analyzer? One that counts rolls won and lost?


No. The dice analyzer gives you this.

edit- here it is.

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Re: A suggestion to all the dice complainers

Postby Georgerx7di on Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:52 pm

Timminz wrote:
Georgerx7di wrote:
mibi wrote:There is a script for this.


Other than the dice analyzer? One that counts rolls won and lost?


No. The dice analyzer gives you this.


Oh, I guess I need to change my suggestion then. I am a little old school though. I was going to suggest that people use a chisel and stone tablet, but I figured nobody would go for it; so I went modern and suggested paper instead.
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Re: A suggestion to all the dice complainers

Postby Foxglove on Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:01 pm

Georgerx7di wrote:
Oh, I guess I need to change my suggestion then. I am a little old school though. I was going to suggest that people use a chisel and stone tablet, but I figured nobody would go for it; so I went modern and suggested paper instead.


Luddite. :)
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Re: A suggestion to all the dice complainers

Postby Timminz on Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:04 pm

Down with automated looms!
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Re: A suggestion to all the dice complainers

Postby ronsizzle on Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:05 pm

captainwalrus wrote:Yeah but having them do it by hand makes them realize that it is not worth it so they should just shut up and deal.



i think you might want to shut up and deal.......some money cc's way. it is only 25 dollars. payable by paypal pal.
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Re: A suggestion to all the dice complainers

Postby Qwert on Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:40 am

Did dice analyzer,can analized missed logs to?
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Re: A suggestion to all the dice complainers

Postby obliterationX on Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:42 am

qwert wrote:Did dice analyzer,can analized missed logs to?

wot wot.
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Re: A suggestion to all the dice complainers

Postby Georgerx7di on Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:35 pm

One more reason for people to do this on paper. It would force a person to recognize the times when they go 6-0 or 10-0, which people never seem to mention in their dice threads.
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Re: A suggestion to all the dice complainers

Postby sully800 on Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:06 pm

Georgerx7di wrote:One more reason for people to do this on paper. It would force a person to recognize the times when they go 6-0 or 10-0, which people never seem to mention in their dice threads.


But those are good outcomes George, why would we complain about them?
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Re: A suggestion to all the dice complainers

Postby Georgerx7di on Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:42 am

sully800 wrote:
Georgerx7di wrote:One more reason for people to do this on paper. It would force a person to recognize the times when they go 6-0 or 10-0, which people never seem to mention in their dice threads.


But those are good outcomes George, why would we complain about them?


True. And you actually have something to complain about after that game we just played. My dice were awesome that game.
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Re: A suggestion to all the dice complainers

Postby xelabale on Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:31 am

Timminz wrote:
Georgerx7di wrote:
mibi wrote:There is a script for this.


Other than the dice analyzer? One that counts rolls won and lost?


No. The dice analyzer gives you this.

edit- here it is.

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According to that you've attacked 1vs2 624 times. Would you like a game?
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Re: A suggestion to all the dice complainers

Postby Timminz on Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:34 am

xelabale wrote:
Timminz wrote:
Georgerx7di wrote:
mibi wrote:There is a script for this.


Other than the dice analyzer? One that counts rolls won and lost?


No. The dice analyzer gives you this.

edit- here it is.

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According to that you've attacked 1vs2 624 times. Would you like a game?


I have indeed, but perhaps you missed that I win 1v2 a whole 0.78% more than is statistically expected.
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Re: A suggestion to all the dice complainers

Postby xelabale on Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:00 am

Timminz wrote:
xelabale wrote:
Timminz wrote:
Georgerx7di wrote:
mibi wrote:There is a script for this.


Other than the dice analyzer? One that counts rolls won and lost?


No. The dice analyzer gives you this.

edit- here it is.

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According to that you've attacked 1vs2 624 times. Would you like a game?


I have indeed, but perhaps you missed that I win 1v2 a whole 0.78% more than is statistically expected.

OK, let's play a game where you agree to only attack 1vs 2 with your awesome %, I'll just play normally. Just to check the results, you understand? Can't say fairer than that...
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Re: A suggestion to all the dice complainers

Postby Timminz on Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:26 am

On closer inspection, I have actually rolled 1v2 a total of 846 times. The second number is losses, not the denominator.
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Re: A suggestion to all the dice complainers

Postby Pedronicus on Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:34 am

Battle Outcomes Actual Stats Ideal Stats
3v2 15103 / 13509 / 11876 (37.3% / 33.37% / 29.33%) (37.17% / 33.58% / 29.26%)
3v1 16915 / 8850 (65.65% / 34.35%) (65.97% / 34.03%)
2v2 166 / 207 / 307 (24.41% / 30.44% / 45.15%) (22.76% / 32.41% / 44.83%)
2v1 1509 / 1092 (58.02% / 41.98%) (57.87% / 42.13%)
1v2 33 / 135 (19.64% / 80.36%) (25.46% / 74.54%)
1v1 491 / 725 (40.38% / 59.62%) (41.67% / 58.33%)
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Re: A suggestion to all the dice complainers

Postby Georgerx7di on Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:09 pm

Pedronicus wrote:Battle Outcomes Actual Stats Ideal Stats
3v2 15103 / 13509 / 11876 (37.3% / 33.37% / 29.33%) (37.17% / 33.58% / 29.26%)
3v1 16915 / 8850 (65.65% / 34.35%) (65.97% / 34.03%)
2v2 166 / 207 / 307 (24.41% / 30.44% / 45.15%) (22.76% / 32.41% / 44.83%)
2v1 1509 / 1092 (58.02% / 41.98%) (57.87% / 42.13%)
1v2 33 / 135 (19.64% / 80.36%) (25.46% / 74.54%)
1v1 491 / 725 (40.38% / 59.62%) (41.67% / 58.33%)


Wow, everyone's numbers seem to be pretty close to where they should be.
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Re: A suggestion to all the dice complainers

Postby Robinette on Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:34 am

The only thing worse than dice complainers...

Are people who complain about the complainers...

My god, those people, like george, are the worst kind of complainers EVER,,,
and it drives me insane... i'm sure you all agree, well... unless you're not a complainer...
but still... you can see why i am complaining about this, right?

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Re: A suggestion to all the dice complainers

Postby trinicardinal on Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:20 am

Robinette wrote:The only thing worse than dice complainers...

Are people who complain about the complainers...

My god, those people, like george, are the worst kind of complainers EVER,,,
and it drives me insane... i'm sure you all agree, well... unless you're not a complainer...
but still... you can see why i am complaining about this, right?

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Hey who can complain with that logic... :lol: :lol:

unless you're a complainer that is :D
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Re: A suggestion to all the dice complainers

Postby Georgerx7di on Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:45 pm

trinicardinal wrote:
Robinette wrote:The only thing worse than dice complainers...

Are people who complain about the complainers...

My god, those people, like george, are the worst kind of complainers EVER,,,
and it drives me insane... i'm sure you all agree, well... unless you're not a complainer...
but still... you can see why i am complaining about this, right?

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Hey who can complain with that logic... :lol: :lol:

unless you're a complainer that is :D



Uh... Robin. I have a complaint about this.
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