Logic dictates that there is a God!

[AlgyTaylor]

(2 Samuel)If you continue in 2 Sam 21:8 it says that Michal raised those kids for another woman.

No it doesn't.

8 But the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite

(James1:13) The Hebrew word that the KJV translated as tempted is better translated as tested.

but ...

I do not believe the Bible contains errors. (Another "God would have prevented it" kind of thing).

Why didn't God prevent the poor translation, then?

Jay mate, you forgot my questions to you ...

1) We've established that Michal didn't raise sons for another woman according to the bible. Perhaps you misread it, that's fine - we all make mistakes. But still ... why is this error in the Bible?
[okay, I didn't actually ask that - but reading between the lines here ...]

2) Why didn't God prevent a false translation in the Bible? You said that he wouldn't allow any errors in the Bible.


I'm not questioning whether or not the Bible is the word of God or not, just establishing that - because of human error - it contains errors. I'll get on to the deeper theological debate once we've passed the first milestone of accepting that regardless of whether God exists or not, the Bible, divinely inspired or not, is primarily a human creation which contains human errors.

[Kahless]

It's sometimes hard to reason with people who believe in talking serpents

[AlgyTaylor]

It's sometimes hard to reason with people who believe in talking serpents

Well any religion who's values are based on the hallucionations of some shepherd who spends days on end wandering around alone ...

[Kahless]

I guess you can't understand how a shepherd could be lonely, Algy

[AlgyTaylor]

I hope you're not implying anything about folk who live in central Wales there ....

[Kahless]

I'm simply saying that there's not much else to do

[MeDeFe]

Reminds me of Robinson Crusoe and his goats... and don't even get me started on Friday.

[WL_southerner]

mock me if you must on this
but when jay said god made adam out off dust that makes sence if you think about it

[Lazare Carnot]

Does it really? Does it make any more sense than saying Adam made God out of dust? Or that Adam made God from his own imagination?

[MeDeFe]

You mean since many people are so dry and can't take a joke?

[Kahless]

Seems a bit strange that a Christian has stonehenge as an avatar

[WL_southerner]

think about it very carefully it do make sence
stonehendge is the oldest man made structure still standing in the world today

[2dimes]

Well, if God gave us the tools to disprove Him, aren't we supposed to use these tools? I mean, what would be the purpose of creating something that man wasn't supposed to use?

Finally some sense here.

No reason for them lovely nukes to be gathering dust. Iran and North Korea want some nucular weapons lets start droppin' some!!

[Lazare Carnot]

Surely a country as insular as North Korea is the safest set of hands to have nukes. Much better they are in their hands, than to fall into the hands of some kind of rogue state with a record of invasions and bombings in every continent. Thank heavens that hasn't happened yet!

[XenHu]

Surely a country as insular as North Korea is the safest set of hands to have nukes. Much better they are in their hands, than to fall into the hands of some kind of rogue state with a record of invasions and bombings in every continent. Thank heavens that hasn't happened yet!

My nukes are still being paid for.. That's why I haven't received them yet..




-X

[heavycola]

nukes would make CC a lot easier

[AlgyTaylor]

I'm simply saying that there's not much else to do

And you've not even seen what the wilderness is like further west from me .... makes Knighton look like the entertainment centre of the world! Well, except for Aberystwyth.



Or even including Aberystwyth ... it's a grim place at this time of year.

[AlgyTaylor]

Anyway, before he forgets

Jay - don't forget answer my questions. ;)

[jay_a2j]

(2 Samuel)If you continue in 2 Sam 21:8 it says that Michal raised those kids for another woman.

No it doesn't.

8 But the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite

(James1:13) The Hebrew word that the KJV translated as tempted is better translated as tested.

but ...

I do not believe the Bible contains errors. (Another "God would have prevented it" kind of thing).

Why didn't God prevent the poor translation, then?

Jay mate, you forgot my questions to you ...

1) We've established that Michal didn't raise sons for another woman according to the bible. Perhaps you misread it, that's fine - we all make mistakes. But still ... why is this error in the Bible?
[okay, I didn't actually ask that - but reading between the lines here ...]

2) Why didn't God prevent a false translation in the Bible? You said that he wouldn't allow any errors in the Bible.


I'm not questioning whether or not the Bible is the word of God or not, just establishing that - because of human error - it contains errors. I'll get on to the deeper theological debate once we've passed the first milestone of accepting that regardless of whether God exists or not, the Bible, divinely inspired or not, is primarily a human creation which contains human errors.

Read it again. "8 But the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite"

[WL_southerner]

jay i waiting for you to ask why it makes sence that the bible say god made man out of dust

[jay_a2j]

jay i waiting for you to ask why it makes sence that the bible say god made man out of dust

Why wait? "Ashes to ashes dust to dust"


K..I'll play....why?

[Guiscard]

I'm still waiting for your proof of the 6000 year thing... The title says 'logic' and so I am using logic to disprove this theory...

Its not belief its fact.

[AlgyTaylor]

And I'm still waiting to find out why God allowed a mistake in the bible's translation to occur.

[Kahless]

I'm still waiting for him to explain Dubya Bush

[WL_southerner]

well you know the bible is lest than 2000 years old and its only a collective of other tribes storys, out of the dust more than likey means when homo sapiens first managed to cross the desert of north africa and got into europe they must off seen europe a garden of eden