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Phatscotty wrote:I have watched MSNBC All Day today. Even Chris Mathews twice (yeah I got off work early today). From what I can tell, the 112th Congress is already a failure before they even take their seats. I mean, every show, is just hit piece, after hit piece. I think they might have attacked every single republican in the house today. And some of the points they are hammering, this failure of a promise to cut 100 bill in the first year? #1 I have never hear that promise #2 The lame duck congress just passed last years budget a couple weeks ago which has effects for the next 6 months, giving only 6 months to control the budget. Even worse, these hosts start off with a premise that I vehemently disagree, and then they just draw it out that way, and pile worst case scenario onto worser case, and then tell you who to blame with some of the biggest jumps in logic I have witnessed to date, as well as call them hateful names and use foul language. I even saw Ed Schultz apologizing for something, I did not catch what just happened (I was writing a love letter to Baron or something) but I could tell I missed a doozy. Heck I'll find it oh wait nope nobody even bothers to put Schultz on youtube. Most recent 2 weeks ago? wow
Oh well anyways he apologized for getting WAY TOO ANGRY and calling the republicans a bad name. Okay now I understand the hard left is all in a tizzy today, but I just wanted to say, in public, I will watcheth MSNBC no more. They are living in a bubble over there, and it's a very dangerous one. Stoking hate and pumping fear. I even heard Al Sharpton say minorities had better be worried because the Tea Party is gonna "turn back the clock" 40 years on civil rights. wut? Sounds like a call to arms to me, accept, I have no fucking idea where the hell he gets the clock being turned any which way....It was a very different al sharpton, a very animated, stoking, keeping the flame hot....
So is MSNBC basically just a socialist Soros dominated propaganda outlet?
maasman wrote:I read msnbc but don't watch it. I usually only read the science/tech stuff and world/national/health news, and try to stay away from the political commentary.Phatscotty wrote:I have watched MSNBC All Day today. Even Chris Mathews twice (yeah I got off work early today). From what I can tell, the 112th Congress is already a failure before they even take their seats. I mean, every show, is just hit piece, after hit piece. I think they might have attacked every single republican in the house today. And some of the points they are hammering, this failure of a promise to cut 100 bill in the first year? #1 I have never hear that promise #2 The lame duck congress just passed last years budget a couple weeks ago which has effects for the next 6 months, giving only 6 months to control the budget. Even worse, these hosts start off with a premise that I vehemently disagree, and then they just draw it out that way, and pile worst case scenario onto worser case, and then tell you who to blame with some of the biggest jumps in logic I have witnessed to date, as well as call them hateful names and use foul language. I even saw Ed Schultz apologizing for something, I did not catch what just happened (I was writing a love letter to Baron or something) but I could tell I missed a doozy. Heck I'll find it oh wait nope nobody even bothers to put Schultz on youtube. Most recent 2 weeks ago? wow
Oh well anyways he apologized for getting WAY TOO ANGRY and calling the republicans a bad name. Okay now I understand the hard left is all in a tizzy today, but I just wanted to say, in public, I will watcheth MSNBC no more. They are living in a bubble over there, and it's a very dangerous one. Stoking hate and pumping fear. I even heard Al Sharpton say minorities had better be worried because the Tea Party is gonna "turn back the clock" 40 years on civil rights. wut? Sounds like a call to arms to me, accept, I have no fucking idea where the hell he gets the clock being turned any which way....It was a very different al sharpton, a very animated, stoking, keeping the flame hot....
So is MSNBC basically just a socialist Soros dominated propaganda outlet?
The problem I see is that the right does basically the same thing, and all I see is a huge shitfest because these grown men can't get along with each other. I am beginning to hate politics more and more because the right and left can't get along in an adult manner. They both spew their hate towards the other and come up with the worst possible scenarios for each other and just cannot reconcile their differences over issues very well.
Someone has to say something when Hitler comes around.
maasman wrote:Ok, I'll give you the fact that I'm woefully unprepared to get into a full fledged debate about which side does it worse. All I can say is that I've heard worse things about Glen Beck's camp than anything on the left, but that could very well be the result of what I watch and who I talk to. I hate to take sides on things where I don't have all the facts, so I'll leave it at that.
The problem I see is that the right does basically the same thing, and all I see is a huge shitfest because these grown men can't get along with each other. I am beginning to hate politics more and more because the right and left can't get along in an adult manner. They both spew their hate towards the other and come up with the worst possible scenarios for each other and just cannot reconcile their differences over issues very well.
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Baron Von PWN wrote:I can't really stand watching american news of any stripe. Its all very abrasive, very politically charged and generally sensationalist.
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Phatscotty wrote:I have watched MSNBC All Day today. Even Chris Mathews twice (yeah I got off work early today). From what I can tell, the 112th Congress is already a failure before they even take their seats. I mean, every show, is just hit piece, after hit piece. I think they might have attacked every single republican in the house today. And some of the points they are hammering, this failure of a promise to cut 100 bill in the first year? #1 I have never hear that promise #2 The lame duck congress just passed last years budget a couple weeks ago which has effects for the next 6 months, giving only 6 months to control the budget. Even worse, these hosts start off with a premise that I vehemently disagree, and then they just draw it out that way, and pile worst case scenario onto worser case, and then tell you who to blame with some of the biggest jumps in logic I have witnessed to date, as well as call them hateful names and use foul language. I even saw Ed Schultz apologizing for something, I did not catch what just happened (I was writing a love letter to Baron or something) but I could tell I missed a doozy. Heck I'll find it oh wait nope nobody even bothers to put Schultz on youtube. Most recent 2 weeks ago? wow
Oh well anyways he apologized for getting WAY TOO ANGRY and calling the republicans a bad name. Okay now I understand the hard left is all in a tizzy today, but I just wanted to say, in public, I will watcheth MSNBC no more. They are living in a bubble over there, and it's a very dangerous one. Stoking hate and pumping fear. I even heard Al Sharpton say minorities had better be worried because the Tea Party is gonna "turn back the clock" 40 years on civil rights. wut? Sounds like a call to arms to me, accept, I have no fucking idea where the hell he gets the clock being turned any which way....It was a very different al sharpton, a very animated, stoking, keeping the flame hot....
So is MSNBC basically just a socialist Soros dominated propaganda outlet?
Phatscotty wrote:read further on page 1, as I addressed it.
Phatscotty wrote:What do you think? Impeachment?
Woodruff wrote:Phatscotty wrote:read further on page 1, as I addressed it.
I didn't see it, no...got a link?Phatscotty wrote:What do you think? Impeachment?
No. But they may as well stop the charade of reading the fucking Constitution out loud, if they're not even going to bother following it.
some outlets reported that he and Sessions were at a fundraiser. It is against federal criminal law for members of Congress to accept contributions in the Capitol or its surrounding office buildings, and there was no indication that he raised money at the reception.
Phatscotty wrote:Woodruff wrote:Phatscotty wrote:read further on page 1, as I addressed it.
I didn't see it, no...got a link?Phatscotty wrote:What do you think? Impeachment?
No. But they may as well stop the charade of reading the fucking Constitution out loud, if they're not even going to bother following it.
Yeah dude, but you see, it was just 1 guy, maybe 2. I was not "the republicans in the house"
Phatscotty wrote:I also wonder if maybe there was one democrat, or if this has happened before, or happens once a year?
Phatscotty wrote:I don't know. It looks bad, but I'm not about to start demanding perfection. I mean, the argument "well, they didn't do it in chronological order, so the whole idea of following the constitution is bullshit" doesn't flow for me
I think it amuses you because you are looking to be amused. It's ok, I catch the right doing it too. As always, you have to look through everyones bullshit, not just a certain peoples bullshit
Woodruff wrote:Phatscotty wrote:I don't know. It looks bad, but I'm not about to start demanding perfection. I mean, the argument "well, they didn't do it in chronological order, so the whole idea of following the constitution is bullshit" doesn't flow for me
I think it amuses you because you are looking to be amused. It's ok, I catch the right doing it too. As always, you have to look through everyones bullshit, not just a certain peoples bullshit
Are you suggesting I'm looking at this issue through some sort of a bias against the Republicans? You're so laughable. Unlike them, I actually do care about the Constitution.
Phatscotty wrote:Woodruff wrote:Phatscotty wrote:I don't know. It looks bad, but I'm not about to start demanding perfection. I mean, the argument "well, they didn't do it in chronological order, so the whole idea of following the constitution is bullshit" doesn't flow for me
I think it amuses you because you are looking to be amused. It's ok, I catch the right doing it too. As always, you have to look through everyones bullshit, not just a certain peoples bullshit
Are you suggesting I'm looking at this issue through some sort of a bias against the Republicans? You're so laughable. Unlike them, I actually do care about the Constitution.
ok, do you acknowledge they are trying? or even that there are many more other freshman much more serious about upholding the constitution than the 2 biggest jackasses?
Woodruff wrote:Phatscotty wrote:Woodruff wrote:Phatscotty wrote:I don't know. It looks bad, but I'm not about to start demanding perfection. I mean, the argument "well, they didn't do it in chronological order, so the whole idea of following the constitution is bullshit" doesn't flow for me
I think it amuses you because you are looking to be amused. It's ok, I catch the right doing it too. As always, you have to look through everyones bullshit, not just a certain peoples bullshit
Are you suggesting I'm looking at this issue through some sort of a bias against the Republicans? You're so laughable. Unlike them, I actually do care about the Constitution.
ok, do you acknowledge they are trying? or even that there are many more other freshman much more serious about upholding the constitution than the 2 biggest jackasses?
I'm not as upset with the two freshmen as I am with the Republican Congressional leadership on this issue, actually. THEY'RE just as much at fault as the two freshmen, and much more experienced.
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