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Re: Nordic Countries [Graphics Revamp] [20.8.11]

Postby natty dread on Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:39 pm

Ok, since we're close to finish, I saved the images as png:s - I don't want the jpg artifacts to accumulate...

Also redid the sig again, it was a bit chunky.

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Re: Nordic Countries [Graphics Revamp] [20.8.11]

Postby gimil on Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:05 pm

Wow your image seems to look fresher as a PNG, remember though that lack tends to resize images before uploading maps. Otherwise he will end up with huge amounts of used bandwidth.
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Re: Nordic Countries [Graphics Revamp] [20.8.11]

Postby natty dread on Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:17 pm

gimil wrote:Wow your image seems to look fresher as a PNG, remember though that lack tends to resize images before uploading maps. Otherwise he will end up with huge amounts of used bandwidth.


I know. But if I save it as JPEG, and then lack compresses it into a smaller JPEG, then the JPEG artifacts from the first conversion accumulate - it's like taking a photo-copy of a photo-copy... by saving it as a PNG, then letting lack do the conversion directly from it, there will be less quality loss and artifacts.

Yes, maybe the difference is minute, but since we're forced to have our work converted into low quality JPEG:s, every small thing helps.
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Re: Nordic Countries [Graphics Revamp] [20.8.11]

Postby gimil on Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:55 pm

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gimil wrote:Wow your image seems to look fresher as a PNG, remember though that lack tends to resize images before uploading maps. Otherwise he will end up with huge amounts of used bandwidth.


I know. But if I save it as JPEG, and then lack compresses it into a smaller JPEG, then the JPEG artifacts from the first conversion accumulate - it's like taking a photo-copy of a photo-copy... by saving it as a PNG, then letting lack do the conversion directly from it, there will be less quality loss and artifacts.

Yes, maybe the difference is minute, but since we're forced to have our work converted into low quality JPEG:s, every small thing helps.

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Re: Nordic Countries [Graphics Revamp] [20.8.11]

Postby sannemanrobinson on Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:49 am

Looking sublime Natty. What is the glow above Aland and Bornholm?
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Re: Nordic Countries [Graphics Revamp] [20.8.11]

Postby natty dread on Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:50 am

For the army numbers. Blue numbers won't show up too well without them. If this suggestion ever goes through, I can remove the glows.
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Re: Nordic Countries [Graphics Revamp] [20.8.11]

Postby isaiah40 on Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:56 am

Just noticed one little thing:
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Can you move Helsinki down about 2 px and to the left about 2px. You need to place Uusimaa horizontal and up and to the right a few px to fit the 888 in there. this is only on the small. I believe the names will be covered by the 888's. So fix this and baring anything else, I've moved this and give you this again.

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Re: Nordic Countries [Graphics Revamp] [20.8.11]

Postby natty dread on Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:00 am

Nope, they aren't.

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...wow. The JPEG loss of colour depth is really noticeable with the army numbers... I don't know why we bother sometimes, doing all these maps with clean, vibrant colours, when the JPEG format invariably turns them into grey, drab mush...
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Re: Nordic Countries [Graphics Revamp] [20.8.11]

Postby isaiah40 on Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:02 am

Then we're good to go then!
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Re: Nordic Countries [Graphics Revamp] [20.8.11]

Postby natty dread on Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:12 am

Yay, my 3rd graphics stamp for this map! Thanks isaiah ;)
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Re: Nordic Countries [Graphics Revamp] [20.8.11]

Postby isaiah40 on Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:17 am

Your welcome! Now get the new images posted along with any minor XML changes and we can send them up to Lack!
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Re: Nordic Countries [Graphics Revamp] [20.8.11]

Postby natty dread on Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:32 am

I don't have to submit an XML check, do I? The gameplay wasn't changed, coordinates only...
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Re: Nordic Countries [Graphics Revamp] [20.8.11]

Postby thenobodies80 on Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:28 pm

No,you don't.
Just test it with XML Tester (the validator , not the inspector).
I tried to download your file to test it myself, but your link doesn't work. I'll try again tomorrow....stupid fileden! :(

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Re: Nordic Countries [Graphics Revamp] [20.8.11]

Postby natty dread on Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:19 am

nordic1.xml
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