On modern diet

[zimmah]

I didn't care too much for healthy food until recently, but on the web I got a solution to an autoimmune condition on diet. Since then I've been trying to improve my diet in some aspects to keep eating some things I'm not willing to give up, and in this search I've been learning a lot of stuff that, well.. makes the medical establishment look like the real quackery.

You've probably already heard about this, but you don't give it the importance that it has (judging from the number of tea party and occupy threads here). This is more important that current economics and global warming.

Seems that we've been eating poison. For a long time now. We have not evolved to eat grains, nuts, large quantities of sugar, yet that's all we eat. Even worse, we eat refined forms of these. Apparently most chronic and some deadly health conditions are symptoms of our diet. We have been made to believe eating a lot of carbohydrates is good for us, specially by the cereal industry. We have for breakfast a bowl of sugar and starch. We've also been made to believe that eating meat and fat is bad for us.

I would expect anything by the food industry, even by regulators like the FDA, but by doctors? They don't mention this to you when you go to them because you are sick, they tell you to take a number of pills with a number of side effects, but leave you taking the poison. Seriously, wtf, people trust their lives to them. What about the Hippocratic Oath?

So I just watched a video of this lady dr. who lift herself from a wheelchair by changing her diet. She's now giving advice for free on these. It's like everywhere you look you can find stories like these, just don't get too much attention.

You probably think this don't apply to all of us but I doubt it. Once, years ago, I asked a Dr. I trusted why did he think there was so much type of these conditions now and not so much records of them in the past, and he said that it was because we know so much about them today. Lie.

Do you guys believe this thing I'm saying or does it sound like quackery to you?

ever noticed how a vast mayority of those pills includes aspartame? a totaly unnecessary addictive that is widely believed to be poisonous [citation needed] (that is also found in a lot of 'light' products to replace sugar), just to make the pills taste better. (aspartame is the main reason why all pills have a huge list of sideeffects [citation needed], but the doctors don't care, they'll just give you a new set of pills to fight the sideeffects, leaving you with an even worse aspartame poison, also, most conventional doctors have always sad 'alternative methods' like homeopathic medicines are bad, while in fact homeapathic medines are all natural and therefore have much less sideeffects then that industrial garbage the doctors give you)

Well, apart from drowning, the side-effects of water tend to be relatively minor.

Now, do you want to make a statement about unnecessary additives that is more likely to be taken seriously? I actually think you have a point there, but unfortunately you ruin it when you bring up dissolving relatively tiny quantities of good stuff in relatively huge quantities of water as a viable alternative.

what does water has to do with aspartame?

[nietzsche]

This is not new, but the drawings are pretty and I know these are the kind of articles BBS likes to read

http://www.fastcodesign.com/1668916/pas ... at-but-how

[oVo]

I didn't care too much for healthy food until recently, but on the web I got a solution to an autoimmune condition on diet. Since then I've been trying to improve my diet in some aspects to keep eating some things I'm not willing to give up, and in this search I've been learning a lot of stuff that, well.. makes the medical establishment look like the real quackery.

You've probably already heard about this, but you don't give it the importance that it has (judging from the number of tea party and occupy threads here). This is more important that current economics and global warming.

Seems that we've been eating poison. For a long time now. We have not evolved to eat grains, nuts, large quantities of sugar, yet that's all we eat. Even worse, we eat refined forms of these. Apparently most chronic and some deadly health conditions are symptoms of our diet. We have been made to believe eating a lot of carbohydrates is good for us, specially by the cereal industry. We have for breakfast a bowl of sugar and starch. We've also been made to believe that eating meat and fat is bad for us.

I would expect anything by the food industry, even by regulators like the FDA, but by doctors? They don't mention this to you when you go to them because you are sick, they tell you to take a number of pills with a number of side effects, but leave you taking the poison. Seriously, wtf, people trust their lives to them. What about the Hippocratic Oath?

So I just watched a video of this lady dr. who lift herself from a wheelchair by changing her diet. She's now giving advice for free on these. It's like everywhere you look you can find stories like these, just don't get too much attention.

You probably think this don't apply to all of us but I doubt it. Once, years ago, I asked a Dr. I trusted why did he think there was so much type of these conditions now and not so much records of them in the past, and he said that it was because we know so much about them today. Lie.

Do you guys believe this thing I'm saying or does it sound like quackery to you?

It's only logical that eating better quality foods is good for your health. When you are young your body tolerates --and handles-- all sorts of toxins you absorb much easier than when you are older. As you age it becomes more obvious what types of foods are better for you, but the eating habits of your younger self are hard to break. It's not that you need to break all bad eating habits, but moderation and a wider variety in the foods you eat helps a lot.

Sugar is one of the worst contemporary diet problems. You don't have to avoid all sugars completely, just pay attention to all the sugar contained in the foods you consume and make a conscious effort to reduce your sugar intake. Lots of "low fat" products and processed foods have a wide variety of sugars in their ingredients. Few doctors are nutritionists, so they are rarely a good source of facts about what foods you should avoid, unless it is actually their expertise. There are many conditions that don't have extended records or statistics because they were never seriously documented in the past.

Changing your eating routine to a wider variety foods is always a plus. One interesting thing you can do --IF you are truly interested in the effects food has on you-- is find a good nutritionist, detox your body and work with them, monitoring what you eat as you add items to your menu. It isn't a simple task to accomplish, but I guarantee the results of this process will provide many surprises.

[nietzsche]

I didn't care too much for healthy food until recently, but on the web I got a solution to an autoimmune condition on diet. Since then I've been trying to improve my diet in some aspects to keep eating some things I'm not willing to give up, and in this search I've been learning a lot of stuff that, well.. makes the medical establishment look like the real quackery.

You've probably already heard about this, but you don't give it the importance that it has (judging from the number of tea party and occupy threads here). This is more important that current economics and global warming.

Seems that we've been eating poison. For a long time now. We have not evolved to eat grains, nuts, large quantities of sugar, yet that's all we eat. Even worse, we eat refined forms of these. Apparently most chronic and some deadly health conditions are symptoms of our diet. We have been made to believe eating a lot of carbohydrates is good for us, specially by the cereal industry. We have for breakfast a bowl of sugar and starch. We've also been made to believe that eating meat and fat is bad for us.

I would expect anything by the food industry, even by regulators like the FDA, but by doctors? They don't mention this to you when you go to them because you are sick, they tell you to take a number of pills with a number of side effects, but leave you taking the poison. Seriously, wtf, people trust their lives to them. What about the Hippocratic Oath?

So I just watched a video of this lady dr. who lift herself from a wheelchair by changing her diet. She's now giving advice for free on these. It's like everywhere you look you can find stories like these, just don't get too much attention.

You probably think this don't apply to all of us but I doubt it. Once, years ago, I asked a Dr. I trusted why did he think there was so much type of these conditions now and not so much records of them in the past, and he said that it was because we know so much about them today. Lie.

Do you guys believe this thing I'm saying or does it sound like quackery to you?

It's only logical that eating better quality foods is good for your health. When you are young your body tolerates --and handles-- all sorts of toxins you absorb much easier than when you are older. As you age it becomes more obvious what types of foods are better for you, but the eating habits of your younger self are hard to break. It's not that you need to break all bad eating habits, but moderation and a wider variety in the foods you eat helps a lot.

Sugar is one of the worst contemporary diet problems. You don't have to avoid all sugars completely, just pay attention to all the sugar contained in the foods you consume and make a conscious effort to reduce your sugar intake. Lots of "low fat" products and processed foods have a wide variety of sugars in their ingredients. Few doctors are nutritionists, so they are rarely a good source of facts about what foods you should avoid, unless it is actually their expertise. There are many conditions that don't have extended records or statistics because they were never seriously documented in the past.

Changing your eating routine to a wider variety foods is always a plus. One interesting thing you can do --IF you are truly interested in the effects food has on you-- is find a good nutritionist, detox your body and work with them, monitoring what you eat as you add items to your menu. It isn't a simple task to accomplish, but I guarantee the results of this process will provide many surprises.

You just made me look like a stupid person.

[oVo]

No, not at all, and that was by no means my intention.

[Lootifer]

From: Lectin Report

Do dietary lectins cause disease?

Now my explanation of the problem-.

In Plain English

Lectins are found in ALL foods, certain foods more than others, and the same food may contain varying amounts of lectins depending on processing, when and where the plant was grown, and species.

The most common potentially 'toxic' lectin containing food groups are

* grains, especially wheat and wheat germ but also quinoa, rice, buckwheat, oats, rye, barley, millet and corn.
* legumes (all dried beans, including soy and peanuts),
* dairy (perhaps more so when cows are feed grains instead of grass, a speculation based on research showing transference of lectins into breast milk and dairy.
* nightshade (includes potato, tomato, eggplant and pepper).

* grains, especially wheat and wheat germ but also quinoa, rice, buckwheat, oats, rye, barley, millet and corn.

* rice

* RICE

RICE

Really? I mean NEW REPORT SAYS RICE IS BAD, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN EATING FOR LITERALLY 1000's OF YEARS IS ACTUALLY MAKING US SICK!!!!! Good lord...

[nietzsche]

From: Lectin Report

Do dietary lectins cause disease?

Now my explanation of the problem-.

In Plain English

Lectins are found in ALL foods, certain foods more than others, and the same food may contain varying amounts of lectins depending on processing, when and where the plant was grown, and species.

The most common potentially 'toxic' lectin containing food groups are

* grains, especially wheat and wheat germ but also quinoa, rice, buckwheat, oats, rye, barley, millet and corn.
* legumes (all dried beans, including soy and peanuts),
* dairy (perhaps more so when cows are feed grains instead of grass, a speculation based on research showing transference of lectins into breast milk and dairy.
* nightshade (includes potato, tomato, eggplant and pepper).

* grains, especially wheat and wheat germ but also quinoa, rice, buckwheat, oats, rye, barley, millet and corn.

* rice

* RICE

RICE

Really? I mean NEW REPORT SAYS RICE IS BAD, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN EATING FOR LITERALLY 1000's OF YEARS IS ACTUALLY MAKING US SICK!!!!! Good lord...

I'm not 100% sure about this data, but it goes something like:

The new A and B blood types do generally better on these grains based diets. But O types, we don't do well. I'm on this special diet that, sort of like a paleo diet, and tho milk is not strictly forbidden it's not recommended, and since I love lattes, every 4 days or so I drink a milk coffee, and sure enough the next morning I wake up with some sort of mocus in my throat, which is I believe the agglutinated cells the lectins in the milk killed. Then, being stubborn I drink another latte that day and for the night the pain in my autoimmune condition is back. That's enough to make me forget of milk for 4 or 5 days, lol.

I invite you all to get rid or starchy food for only 3 days, and you'll see how your energy levels go up.

[Lootifer]

I am currently doing ~10k rowing + assorted cross training per day, so no thanks

[BigBallinStalin]

I am currently doing ~10k rowing + assorted cross training per day, so no thanks

How's your cross training been treating you?

I've been considering it.

[nietzsche]

I am currently doing ~10k rowing + assorted cross training per day, so no thanks

Are you like Mcnamara in The Skulls?

[the carpet man]

'sugar and starch' for breakfast? and 'large quantities of sugar' outside of this? your problems might be the result of allowing your 5 year-old son to plan your diet for you.

[IcePack]

Interesting stuff nietzsche, i gotta say I've always loved the carbs. I recently went on a diet plan to lose weight gained from surgery on my leg, and its worked amazingly well. Key component was proteins and veggies, w/ fruit for dessert. I don't have much issues w/ sugar, but those carbs.....i miss them

But i lost nearly all the weight i was looking to lose - can't say it didn't work by cutting 98% of carbs out.

IcePack

[Squirly]

today, most kids are fat and have ADHD, cancer is everywhere, and a larger percentage of the population is well, pretty dumb and happy to stay that way.
I'm not a completely organic food eating tree huger but I try to eat pretty clean and I avoid as much of the crap below as I possibly can. Look up some of these things and see for yourself.

High Fructose Corn Syrup
Aspartame
Fluoride in our water
fast food
Monsanto

[Phatscotty]

My modern diet is all you can eat in the realm of sex.

If you have sex 5 times a day, you will shed 10-15 pounds a week, guaranteed.

[nietzsche]

Easy for you to say, you are a sex doll.

Kidding

[oVo]

If you have sex 5 times a day, you will shed 10-15 pounds a week, guaranteed.

If I had sex --with another person-- 5 times a day,
there would be no time left for anything else.

[Lootifer]

I am currently doing ~10k rowing + assorted cross training per day, so no thanks

Are you like Mcnamara in The Skulls?

No im this guy:

[nietzsche]

I just saw the documentary Food Matters. Very interesting.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1528734/


First 8 minutes:

[xeno]

Aspartame

The weight of existing scientific evidence indicates that aspartame is safe as a non-nutritive sweetener

[nietzsche]

Aspartame

The weight of existing scientific evidence indicates that aspartame is safe as a non-nutritive sweetener

I don't know what the issue is, but I'm sure you'll do better without artificial sweeteners. An when it comes to food/meds, don't trust the "evidence" the FDA is compromised. Incompetent also.

[natty dread]

Aspartame

The weight of existing scientific evidence indicates that aspartame is safe as a non-nutritive sweetener

I don't know what the issue is, but I'm sure you'll do better without artificial sweeteners. An when it comes to food/meds, don't trust the "evidence" the FDA is compromised. Incompetent also.

Aspartame is a dipeptide, which means it's composed of two amino acids, one of which is also a methylated ester.

Basically it means that our bodies fairly quickly metabolize it into it's constituent amino acids (peptide bonds are not very stable), and our bodies are experts at handling amino acids - f*ck, we're all about the amino acids.


People get way too hysteric about foods these days. FFS, eat what you want, as long as you don't overdo it - and as long as you excercise enough to utilize all the energy you consume. And don't eat too much processed food products - get some real food and make your own food, you save money and it's better for you. But other than that, there's basically no point in obsessing over your diet.

[nietzsche]

Aspartame

The weight of existing scientific evidence indicates that aspartame is safe as a non-nutritive sweetener

I don't know what the issue is, but I'm sure you'll do better without artificial sweeteners. An when it comes to food/meds, don't trust the "evidence" the FDA is compromised. Incompetent also.

Aspartame is a dipeptide, which means it's composed of two amino acids, one of which is also a methylated ester.

Basically it means that our bodies fairly quickly metabolize it into it's constituent amino acids (peptide bonds are not very stable), and our bodies are experts at handling amino acids - f*ck, we're all about the amino acids.


People get way too hysteric about foods these days. FFS, eat what you want, as long as you don't overdo it - and as long as you excercise enough to utilize all the energy you consume. And don't eat too much processed food products - get some real food and make your own food, you save money and it's better for you. But other than that, there's basically no point in obsessing over your diet.

That last part is the problem. Our lifestyles make us eat a lot of processed foods. Have you seen the ingredients in the labels? I know you like to just take the opposite side but still..

Why are there miraculous recoveries when fasting? Because we just stopped eating the venom and the body its allowed to heal itself.

Supposedly when we eat cooked food our immune system sort of make us swell because it can't recognize the particles anymore, so it gets overactive. Don't remember the term exactly but it is a fact. The same thing doesn't happen if you eat raw stuff, in fact, if at least 60% of what you eat in that meal is raw, it won't happen.

But it's ok keep citing FDA approved, big pharma and ddt funded research.

[natty dread]

Why are there miraculous recoveries when fasting? Because we just stopped eating the venom and the body its allowed to heal itself.

correlation != causation

Supposedly when we eat cooked food our immune system sort of make us swell because it can't recognize the particles anymore,

That's... ok, that doesn't even begin to make any modicum of sense.

Recognize particles? Wtf is that even supposed to mean???

But it's ok keep citing FDA approved, big pharma and ddt funded research.

Nietszszschzse, is this you?

[natty dread]

http://scienceblogs.com/denialism/2008/ ... smagic.php

[Neoteny]

Wtf is going on in here.