Church of England stays classy

[Symmetry]

The Church of England has female ministers. Here's a list of the first 32 women ordained as priests in the Church of England:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_th ... nd_priests

Are we done with the ridiculous claims yet?

[tzor]

There isn't enough women driving boats. When are we going to address that?

"Dirving boats?" I'll assume you meant that literally. Chesapeake woman takes role on sub, Navy history.

Because everyone knows a "boat" is a submarine and everything else is a "ship."

[Haggis_McMutton]

No opinions on this blatant act of misogyny by the Protestant church (supposedly the more liberal ones amirite?) in the 21st century pushing back decades of reform attempting to create a more equal society?

What is the evidence that making women bishops is the right thing to do?

In general, more empathy, which I hear is a Christian value.

Sure it is, but that does not mean that there aren't certain jobs or subjects or positions that are meant for men, or that are meant for women, or that men/women are generally better/worse at.

For example: Prison guards. Another, waitresses at hooters

Explain how women are less capable of being priests or ministers. I'm all ears.

Well, historically speaking, god seems to prefer speaking through men, so it does seem reasonable.
I wouldn't want my priest to be part of a demographic that god isn't particularly fond of, would I?

[Iliad]

No opinions on this blatant act of misogyny by the Protestant church (supposedly the more liberal ones amirite?) in the 21st century pushing back decades of reform attempting to create a more equal society?

What is the evidence that making women bishops is the right thing to do?

In general, more empathy, which I hear is a Christian value.

Sure it is, but that does not mean that there aren't certain jobs or subjects or positions that are meant for men, or that are meant for women, or that men/women are generally better/worse at.

For example: Prison guards. Another, waitresses at hooters

Explain how women are less capable of being priests or ministers. I'm all ears.

I'm not saying that. The Church is, and I don't even know if that is the reason they give.

You were still defending them, and claiming that there are roles "meant" for men and others "meant" for women. Which is precisely the attitude and antiquated gender roles people are trying to overturn. Welcome to the 21st century.

Why can't women be bishops scotty?

[2dimes]

Because everyone knows a "boat"."

Never lend tzor your boat. He will take his cats out in it and possibly sink it pretending it's a submarine.

[DoomYoshi]

Deletion.

[DoomYoshi]

There isn't enough women driving boats. When are we going to address that?

"Dirving boats?" I'll assume you meant that literally. Chesapeake woman takes role on sub, Navy history.

Because everyone knows a "boat" is a submarine and everything else is a "ship."

Everything else?

Like these things:

















This is truly epic. Who could imagine that all these things - both in water and out, are all ships. I guess female bishops are "ships" too.

The great thing is that now we know that whoever has the biggest collection of "things" (not counting submarines as a thing) has the most ships and therefore the largest navy. Since fat people have more atoms in their body (more things) they have larger navies. CC should award free points to fat people.

[tzor]

There isn't enough women driving boats. When are we going to address that?

"Dirving boats?" I'll assume you meant that literally. Chesapeake woman takes role on sub, Navy history.

Because everyone knows a "boat" is a submarine and everything else is a "ship."

Everything else?

Well crap can be boats, but they aren't generally not worth mentioning. If you want a more formal definition of not worth being called a ship ... here is the Wikipedia definition.

A boat is a watercraft of any size designed to float or plane, to provide passage across water. Usually this water will be inland (lakes) or in protected coastal areas. However, boats such as the whaleboat were designed to be operated from a ship in an offshore environment. In naval terms, a boat is a vessel small enough to be carried aboard another vessel (a ship). Another less restrictive definition is a vessel that can be lifted out of the water. Strictly speaking and uniquely a submarine is a boat as defined by the Royal Navy. Some boats too large for the naval definition include the Great Lakes freighter, riverboat, narrow boat and ferryboat. The term armed boat, used primarily by English speaking naval forces, referred to any boat carrying either a cannon or armed occupants, such as marines.

So are we talking tankers, ocean liners, and aircraft carriers, or are we talking oversized guitars on a lake? Because I don't think the later is a good description for the office of bishop. Hell, even a pastor deserves a proper "ship."

[DoomYoshi]

Big ships carry little ships on their backs despite them
Little ships carry little boats and so ad infinitum.

In any case, if the definition you posted says that everything else isn't a ship, why would you post that? Were you just lying to us? If a submarine has aircraft in it, is it a ship then?

[Phatscotty]

What is the evidence that making women bishops is the right thing to do?

In general, more empathy, which I hear is a Christian value.

Sure it is, but that does not mean that there aren't certain jobs or subjects or positions that are meant for men, or that are meant for women, or that men/women are generally better/worse at.

For example: Prison guards. Another, waitresses at hooters

Explain how women are less capable of being priests or ministers. I'm all ears.

I'm not saying that. The Church is, and I don't even know if that is the reason they give.

You were still defending them, and claiming that there are roles "meant" for men and others "meant" for women. Which is precisely the attitude and antiquated gender roles people are trying to overturn. Welcome to the 21st century.

Why can't women be bishops scotty?

I have no idea for their reasons (already stated). I just find is fascinating that you guys think you are going to tell the church what is right and what is wrong.

[crispybits]

Why? A minority in the Church have been telling everyone else what is right and wrong for years. Any small group of people putting forward moral expectations of any larger group of people is just following their example.

Only difference is that this time it's being done with the backing of well developed and mature sociological arguments instead of "God said so. Derp"