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Who was the MVP?

Storr
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27%
Aage
12
55%
Streaker
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9%
mitch
1
5%
charm
0
No votes
HotShot
0
No votes
Ragian
1
5%
 
Total votes : 22

Re: [Official] HP Mafia - 19/24 - D3: In the Chamber of Sec

Postby dd515087 on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:26 pm

StorrZerg wrote:@Dd5 because streaker claims he forced our actions on each other. You said nothing happened to you, confirms my no wand.

I got something in the night. You could be the reason. I find this a lead.


Lololkl

I said I wasn't told that something happened to me. Doesn't mean nothing did. It confirms jack-shit.

I've already told you I didn't send the message. If Streaker is scum, I believe he is, they could've sent it to you to frame me knowing that Streaker would probably be forced to claim and then he would've set this up.

StorrZerg wrote:Can we force dd5 claim before rage lynch?

If you really want to know who I am read all of my posts over again, how many times do I have to say this? :roll:

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Re: [Official] HP Mafia - 19/24 - D3: In the Chamber of Sec

Postby degaston on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:28 pm

dd515087 wrote:$10 says Bellatrix. Also if you were trying to start an organic wagon you should have pushed harder and made more of a case yourself. People will listen to you based on your power, at least I would. If we had made an organic wagon than we could've also seen whether or not he had a fake claim.
No bet. :D We've already lost 4 townies, and a legitimate 3rd party. It's pretty hard to get the remaining townies to agree on anything, and the scum would have defended him hard. Maybe there was something else I could have done, but I don't know what.

Now, of course, the scum are probably going to throw him under the bus to try to protect themselves. :lol:

No reason to hammer him right now, but we may as well see if he wants to claim.
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Re: [Official] HP Mafia - 19/24 - D3: In the Chamber of Sec

Postby got tonkaed on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:35 pm

After reading d2 again. I have no idea why Streaker thought DD was so weird to use a night action on him. It kind of makes the whole busdriving him a bit weird.

I am also not super on board with DD claiming (though I can't tell who the character is by D1 or 2 posts) as i can't trust that message is legit from Storr. I'd be interested in what Degaston thought about DD claiming.
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Re: [Official] HP Mafia - 19/24 - D3: In the Chamber of Sec

Postby StorrZerg on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:40 pm

Centaur vt dd5. Other wise idgaf.
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Re: [Official] HP Mafia - 19/24 - D3: In the Chamber of Sec

Postby sempaispellcheck on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:41 pm

degaston wrote:because Ragian is the one who's been casting Cruciatus. I was hoping that an organic wagon could be started on him, so that I could see who would avoid voting for him, but the scum are working too hard to create distractions.

*whistles* Nice catch, deg.
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Re: [Official] HP Mafia - 19/24 - D3: In the Chamber of Sec

Postby StorrZerg on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:42 pm

got tonkaed wrote:After reading d2 again. I have no idea why Streaker thought DD was so weird to use a night action on him. It kind of makes the whole busdriving him a bit weird.

I am also not super on board with DD claiming (though I can't tell who the character is by D1 or 2 posts) as i can't trust that message is legit from Storr. I'd be interested in what Degaston thought about DD claiming.


Deg thinks it's a big distraction from his regular lynch
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Re: [Official] HP Mafia - 19/24 - D3: In the Chamber of Secr

Postby Epitaph1 on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:42 pm

VOTE COUNT

dd - Streaker, Storr
Streaker - Pixar, aage
Ragian - tonka, dd, Daz, dega, sempai

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Re: [Official] HP Mafia - 19/24 - D3: In the Chamber of Sec

Postby MudPuppy on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:43 pm

degaston wrote:
degaston wrote:but the scum are working too hard to create distractions.

StorrZerg wrote:Can we force dd5 claim before rage lynch?

Nice try! :lol:

As I said before, I'm quite skeptical of Storr. I'm also on board a ragian lynch today... but I have to agree with Storr in the sense that we shouldn't rush it. Though we clearly need a claim from you, rage. I'm also not saying the other push should be dd but I do think it would be helpful to push at least one other button besides rage.

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Re: [Official] HP Mafia - 19/24 - D3: In the Chamber of Sec

Postby got tonkaed on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:44 pm

StorrZerg wrote:
got tonkaed wrote:After reading d2 again. I have no idea why Streaker thought DD was so weird to use a night action on him. It kind of makes the whole busdriving him a bit weird.

I am also not super on board with DD claiming (though I can't tell who the character is by D1 or 2 posts) as i can't trust that message is legit from Storr. I'd be interested in what Degaston thought about DD claiming.


Deg thinks it's a big distraction from his regular lynch


Well then given that we don't know that you didn't make up the message, it doesn't really matter cause you already posted the likely claim you would get anyway.
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Re: [Official] HP Mafia - 19/24 - D3: In the Chamber of Sec

Postby sempaispellcheck on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:45 pm

StorrZerg wrote:
got tonkaed wrote:After reading d2 again. I have no idea why Streaker thought DD was so weird to use a night action on him. It kind of makes the whole busdriving him a bit weird.

I am also not super on board with DD claiming (though I can't tell who the character is by D1 or 2 posts) as i can't trust that message is legit from Storr. I'd be interested in what Degaston thought about DD claiming.


Deg thinks it's a big distraction from his regular lynch

And I'm inclined to agree. For my money:
1. The only thing worse than Cruciatus is Avada Kedavra.
2. It's highly unlikely we'd be able to say with any certainty that dd is the big V before the end of D3.

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Re: [Official] HP Mafia - 19/24 - D3: In the Chamber of Sec

Postby MudPuppy on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:45 pm

Nice to see your Patronus still goes where you point, Semp. I was a bit worried about that despite your statement.
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Re: [Official] HP Mafia - 19/24 - D3: In the Chamber of Sec

Postby StorrZerg on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:47 pm

[Do me a favor, place your regular vote. Or try to.

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Re: [Official] HP Mafia - 19/24 - D3: In the Chamber of Sec

Postby got tonkaed on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:49 pm

sempaispellcheck wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:
got tonkaed wrote:After reading d2 again. I have no idea why Streaker thought DD was so weird to use a night action on him. It kind of makes the whole busdriving him a bit weird.

I am also not super on board with DD claiming (though I can't tell who the character is by D1 or 2 posts) as i can't trust that message is legit from Storr. I'd be interested in what Degaston thought about DD claiming.


Deg thinks it's a big distraction from his regular lynch

And I'm inclined to agree. For my money:
1. The only thing worse than Cruciatus is Avada Kedavra.
2. It's highly unlikely we'd be able to say with any certainty that dd is the big V before the end of D3.

FP'ed by gt.

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Even under the scenario that Storr didn't decide to do a gambit because yay!, then DD isn't going to be Voldemort by the way that note reads. At the absolute most DD would be the person receiving the message.

To be honest, I'd rather Storr just own up to him faking the message on some other read he thought he had so that nothing else gets outed that doesn't need to be. The whole scenario of how it played out is just weird otherwise.
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Re: [Official] HP Mafia - 19/24 - D3: In the Chamber of Sec

Postby StorrZerg on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:51 pm

Streaker said actions we sent being me and dd5, go to each other.

Unless that needs to be corrected
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Re: [Official] HP Mafia - 19/24 - D3: In the Chamber of Sec

Postby StorrZerg on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:51 pm

Msg is not fake.
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Re: [Official] HP Mafia - 19/24 - D3: In the Chamber of Sec

Postby got tonkaed on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:53 pm

Someone should figure out what is up with Streaker then. His name being on that message still doesn't make sense without some mafia crap that would put the busdrivers name on there if the message somehow got switched.

Or Streaker is lying. Streaker is probably lying.
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Re: [Official] HP Mafia - 19/24 - D3: In the Chamber of Sec

Postby aage on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:54 pm

degaston wrote:
aage wrote:I can see that Storr would assume that this person wanted him to lead a lynch, granted that he assumed the message was intended expressly for him. In fact, if this message is legit, it speaks for him that he shares the message instead of following its orders, even if he may have misinterpreted them.
I've suspected that you were scum for a while, but your blind devotion to Storr and making apologies for his statements after two days of mis-lynches has me pretty convinced.

In any case, I don't want to lynch you today, or even Storr...

because Ragian is the one who's been casting Cruciatus. I was hoping that an organic wagon could be started on him, so that I could see who would avoid voting for him, but the scum are working too hard to create distractions.

Well, that's fairly easy then. We'll lynch him by the end of the day. Day three just started though, we have all day to discuss and odds are about 99 to 1 that we will lynch Ragian by the end of it. Doesn't mean we should go right into night though, although I can see why you'd want to.

StorrZerg wrote:Btw I thought strike wolf sent it because it included "strike" twice.
This was my guess too after you posted it, fairly obvious imho. Degaston's analysis of your posts since 'the message' is so biased, it hurts to read.


Also, I'm turning around on this whole Streaker thing and have to unvote because there is clear reason to assume this is a frame. Streaker's name is mentioned twice in the note. Someone already mentioned that it's odd that it's mentioned twice - in fact, it's odd that it's mentioned once.

First of all let's look at the nature of the message; it clearly states that "the boy" should be killed, pretty sure this is Harry Potter. This means the sender is anti-Harry and therefore likely mafia. I see no scenario where a town member would send this exact message to Storr since the message does not help the town at all and voices a strong anti-town tone.

Now for the mentioning of Streaker, there are several scenarios for Streaker to be anti-town, but each of them has problems.
- If Streaker is scum, why would he send a message addressed at himself to Storr (or anyone)?
- If Streaker is some outside-of-the-mafia man doing their killing, why does the mafia send a message that expressly states his name at all? They would know who they're trying to send it to, and Streaker knows that he would be the one receiving the message, by receiving it (duh) - why put it in there? The fact that it's mentioned twice only makes it more bloody obvious, actually.

dd515087 wrote:If Streaker is scum, I believe he is, they could've sent it to you to frame me knowing that Streaker would probably be forced to claim and then he would've set this up.
If Streaker is scum, deliberately sent Storr the message and eventually claimed, what exactly did he set up? The case against himself? Assuming you are not mafia, Streaker is mafia and this is a set up against you, it is not efficient to use this action as a devise to trap you. Either Streaker would be lynched and that would be the end of it, or you would be lynched and Streaker would be highly suspicious, and likely the next target. Your suspicion of Streaker based on this message is odd especially.

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StorrZerg wrote:Can we force dd5 claim before rage lynch?

If you really want to know who I am read all of my posts over again, how many times do I have to say this? :roll:

He's not asking for your name, he's asking for your night ability.


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Re: [Official] HP Mafia - 19/24 - D3: In the Chamber of Sec

Postby degaston on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:58 pm

got tonkaed wrote:I'd be interested in what Degaston thought about DD claiming.
It doesn't seem to me that another claim is helpful to town at this point. I think we should lynch Ragian at the end of the day, which should prove my status - assuming no one bus-drove or otherwise messed with my results from him - if you're town, and this might have happened, you should probably speak up.

If there was to be another claim today, I'd probably favor aage. I had dd on the scummy side, but with him and Storr fighting I don't get the feeling that both of them are scum - may have to go back and re-read a lot to figure that out. Unless there are some big surprises, I think I'd be back to wanting a Storr lynch tomorrow, which might provide some solid info on dd and streaker.
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Re: [Official] HP Mafia - 19/24 - D3: In the Chamber of Sec

Postby got tonkaed on Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:59 pm

aage - can you help me out here? I am trying to understand since people seem to be taking this as a given but I cannot think of one mafia related way this would happen. I checked the wiki and I cannot seem to come up with a way that Streaker's name would have been manipulated by the scum.

The way I am looking at it - Streaker as honest bus driver
The mafia send a message to dd which does not get there because Streaker has busdriven him and storr. Why would the mafia send a message to DD that implicates Streaker? I was looking up modifiers and I have nothing.

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Re: [Official] HP Mafia - 19/24 - D3: In the Chamber of Sec

Postby degaston on Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:06 pm

aage, it's interesting how you can turn:
degaston wrote:No reason to hammer him right now, but we may as well see if he wants to claim.
into:
aage wrote:Doesn't mean we should go right into night though, although I can see why you'd want to.
I don't think you're skimming - just lying scum.
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Re: [Official] HP Mafia - 19/24 - D3: In the Chamber of Sec

Postby dd515087 on Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:12 pm

aage wrote:
dd wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:Can we force dd5 claim before rage lynch?

If you really want to know who I am read all of my posts over again, how many times do I have to say this? :roll:

He's not asking for your name, he's asking for your night ability.

Ahh, but by correctly figuring out my name that should become clear.

Either way, Shouldn't have said that. No more questions, don't ask any more questions!

Regarding the talk about sending the message to me and it ended up with Storr, that would have nothing to do with Streaker. Streaker's ability means that anyone I targeted would be switched to Storr and vice-versa. Has nothing to do with people targeting us.
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Re: [Official] HP Mafia - 19/24 - D3: In the Chamber of Sec

Postby dd515087 on Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:14 pm

degaston wrote:aage, it's interesting how you can turn:
degaston wrote:No reason to hammer him right now, but we may as well see if he wants to claim.
into:
aage wrote:Doesn't mean we should go right into night though, although I can see why you'd want to.
I don't think you're skimming - just lying scum.

Good catch.

I am personally in favor of going right into the night phase, another night would give us more info and we can have more discussion on D4.
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Re: [Official] HP Mafia - 19/24 - D3: In the Chamber of Sec

Postby strike wolf on Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:14 pm

Some things we should get before ending the day.

1. Mtam to say something.
2. Someone to come forward as having been hit by the Cruciatus curse (There is little down side here, if someone comes forward, it might be possible to save them from dying).
3. Everyone should voice at least one suspicion they have that is not Ragian, Streaker or DD. Or Storr for simply being not town. Preferably with at least something of a case behind them.
4. Get a claim from Ragian obviously.

Endgame is my top read for scum outside of those three mentioned above. He has constantly bandwagoned and done little beyond it.

I really doubt that DD is claiming a centaur and acting like it is a fool proof hint that he can go back and say "I hinted here" as if to ward off all lynch possibility. I have an idea who he might be claiming but won't say unless he is comfortable with my guess being known.
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Re: [Official] HP Mafia - 19/24 - D3: In the Chamber of Sec

Postby aage on Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:19 pm

got tonkaed wrote:aage - can you help me out here? I am trying to understand since people seem to be taking this as a given but I cannot think of one mafia related way this would happen. I checked the wiki and I cannot seem to come up with a way that Streaker's name would have been manipulated by the scum.

The way I am looking at it - Streaker as honest bus driver
The mafia send a message to dd which does not get there because Streaker has busdriven him and storr. Why would the mafia send a message to DD that implicates Streaker? I was looking up modifiers and I have nothing.

Regardless of Streaker being legitimate, and regardless of whether the message was sent to either Storr or DD... The message is either a frame by an anti-town party that implicates Streaker, or it is a message that unnecessarily mentions Streaker's name, and accidentally ended up in Storr's inbox.

The fact that the mentioning of Streaker's name is unnecessary is reason enough for me to assume that the message did not end up in Storr's inbox by accident. Someone wanted Storr to receive the message, and since he's expressed a pro-town stance I think that this person wanted Storr to reveal the message, lead a lynch on Streaker and then be lynched himself on day 4 for misinforming the town. Whoever sent the message wanted us to suspect or even lynch Streaker based on this message - if they were on the same team, (A) why send the message; and (B) why mention the name of your partner in crime in it?


degaston wrote:aage, it's interesting how you can turn:
degaston wrote:No reason to hammer him right now, but we may as well see if he wants to claim.
into:
aage wrote:Doesn't mean we should go right into night though, although I can see why you'd want to.
I don't think you're skimming - just lying scum.

Blegh. You're really looking way too much into these statements. I already said that I believe your lead - I'm not saying you're scum here. I'm referring to you being able to use that action again, since you've gotten a good result last night, and following that up by saying (possibly in slightly less clear terms) that I'm not ready to play follow-the-cop just yet. You're the one misconstruing my words here.
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Re: [Official] HP Mafia - 19/24 - D3: In the Chamber of Sec

Postby got tonkaed on Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:25 pm

My suspicion would be Mudpuppy, buddying up to Strike and saying he should be the leader is a pretty decent way to hide behind a confirmed townie.
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