Skoffin wrote:In every game of Lovo's that I can remember every dingle scum was a power role. For this game I am assuming that the scum here too have extra power.
I'm assuming this is a bastard setup due to me being vengeful, as I never seen that modifier before. When it turns out I was saying the truth, it will not be so weird that Thoroth "the mod-confirmed townie" maybe isn't what the mod says. Just saying... and to reply to all previous posts, I won't be going for Thor directly, rather a pool of few scummy people and then random. Thor is probably 3rd party which has "confirmed as town by mod" in his role, he can be SK or something else, but I'll go for someone from my lynch despite I can kill anyone, even those not on a lynch.
A vengeful role is a relatively normal thing (not overly common but i've seen it plenty). You shouldn't view as something you have to get yourself killed to be useful. You should look at it as something to help even if you get yourself lynched. In other words, you're a vanilla townie that if accidentally lynched has a chance to hit scum. A bastard game would be the mod blatantly lying about roles or about core mechanics. This game is not like that at all.
Samlen wrote:A vengeful role is a relatively normal thing (not overly common but i've seen it plenty). You shouldn't view as something you have to get yourself killed to be useful. You should look at it as something to help even if you get yourself lynched. In other words, you're a vanilla townie that if accidentally lynched has a chance to hit scum. A bastard game would be the mod blatantly lying about roles or about core mechanics. This game is not like that at all.
This as this may sound as I'm hiding something, but I have a reason to believe it is a bastard setup and that's why I think Thor is not town, while even being confirmed town from mod. While I am vengeful town, I am different. Please don't question it because the more people is on me, the more damage it will cause (I'm not saying about lynch, you can lynch me without consequences I believe).
Don't lynch the scummiest liar ever because he has super-venge powers (oooohhh) that will automatically make town lose... Not to mention he knows that the mod is lying to you and I'm not confirmed town but really scum or a third party SK or who the hell knows... And if the mod is a liar, maybe whoever we lynch won't really be lynched anyway... maybe none of us even have the role or alignment we think we have?! Gosh, this game is exciting. Anything could happen?!
Besides, you now all have an array of almost random alternative candidates to lynch... or NOT lynch... No wonder nobody wants to take over IP's role.
LoVo, please set a deadline, this day is taking forever. I don't know if a deadline will make all the solipsist townies band together and make the dakky-lynch happen or not... but if Day 2 is going to be wasted let's at least put an end to it.
I have one more pm out to a potential replacement. If they dont say yes then I will mod kill the roll and set a 48 hour deadline. I expect that to be set within the day.
dakky21 wrote:Please don't question it because the more people is on me, the more damage it will cause (I'm not saying about lynch, you can lynch me without consequences I believe).
Huh? What do you mean by 'you can lynch me without consequences I believe' when you've been saying all along you can take someone with you?
With the latest mod announcement and since I've got kids for the next week or two (don't want to risk missing a deadline), I'll switch back to Dakky as I've said I would. unvote vote Dakky Hopefully Pika is right and this doesn't kick us in the shitter and I'm just being a negative nancy about it.
Dukasaur wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
dakky21 wrote:Thor is probably 3rd party which has "confirmed as town by mod" in his role, he can be SK or something else, but I'll go for someone from my lynch despite I can kill anyone, even those not on a lynch....
....This as this may sound as I'm hiding something, but I have a reason to believe it is a bastard setup and that's why I think Thor is not town, while even being confirmed town from mod.
You seem to be overlooking rule #1 in this game:
lord voldemort wrote:1.The moderator is always right.
So, when the moderator says:
lord voldemort wrote:Mod Announcement
I am confirming that Thorthoth is aligned with Thorin's Company
... you can pretty much take it as gold that it's true... otherwise it would have been worded differently so as not to come straight from LoVo's mouth. There's still the possibility that Thor could have been converted later but based on the rules of this game, at the time of LoVo's revelation, Thor was town.
Exactlly Mud, that's what I'm trying to say. Maybe Thor's role includes a switch to scum, 3rd party or the role itself has a modifier which says "you may once be mod announced as town". So yeah, mod was right at that point, but who knows what will happen in the following days.
FloresDelMal wrote:why ppl like pika are unvoting dakky now?
I'll revote dakky21 when we get a replacement or a deadline assuming nothing drastic changes. Currently a town dakky21 (who is telling the truth about their role) can kill anybody even if they're not on the wagon, and a scum dakky21 likely just kills the hammer voter who I still think we should decide on collectively,[size=150] I don't see unvoting now as the same act of self-preservation as I did previously when the assumption was town dakky21 would only be able to kill from the bandwagon.[/size]
dakky21 wrote:I can only say one of you on my lynch will regret your decision, while I can take anyone down.
BS pika, dakky might be a magical unicorn shooting deadly rainbows out of his ass which can reach ppl not even playing this game, but he expressedly say that he will choose amongst us voting for him and he will make us regret having voted him off, i don't buy into his scare tactic, but you sir do smell of cowardice and self preservation just as mitch does, and even him at the end put his vote on him FOS Pika
Thorthoth wrote:This is getting tiresome...
Don't lynch the scummiest liar ever because he has super-venge powers (oooohhh) that will automatically make town lose... Not to mention he knows that the mod is lying to you and I'm not confirmed town but really scum or a third party SK or who the hell knows... And if the mod is a liar, maybe whoever we lynch won't really be lynched anyway... maybe none of us even have the role or alignment we think we have?! Gosh, this game is exciting. Anything could happen?!
OMFG i cant beliave i find myself agreeing with this kid
anyway i am literally sick, i don't know with what strain of the flu i am comming down but i feel like crap, everything hurts, i am having burst of fever here and there and sleeping most of the time, and atm things are just getting worse so my participation will lower, but my vote stays where it is, i dont beliave dakky to be town, and i dont see a better target for D2 and my argument still holds water, so that's it for now, that being said i will do my best to keep up with the game, and i seriously hope we wont end with a no lynch again.
madmitch wrote:We either lynch Dakky, or wait for replacement or mod kill not much we can do
Yes, today, Day 2, we'll vote dakky. Feel free to join in, Mitch . Of course, tomorrow, we'll vote somebody else...
As for me, I know I'm the likely target if dakky is really venge-scum*, but the loss of one VT is an acceptable loss for one scum. I'm willing to risk that self-sacrifice** for a town win.
* However, if dakky is venge-town and kills me then his meta-reputation is going to be so OMGUS that it should even affect mods allowing him to join future games.
** But please do remember my self-sacrifice when it comes time to vote MVP. I'm not that self-sacrificial .
Samlen wrote:A vengeful role is a relatively normal thing (not overly common but i've seen it plenty). You shouldn't view as something you have to get yourself killed to be useful. You should look at it as something to help even if you get yourself lynched. In other words, you're a vanilla townie that if accidentally lynched has a chance to hit scum. A bastard game would be the mod blatantly lying about roles or about core mechanics. This game is not like that at all.
This as this may sound as I'm hiding something, but I have a reason to believe it is a bastard setup and that's why I think Thor is not town, while even being confirmed town from mod. While I am vengeful town, I am different. Please don't question it because the more people is on me, the more damage it will cause (I'm not saying about lynch, you can lynch me without consequences I believe).
Yes it sounds like you are hiding something, and If you're hiding something at this point then i don't know what to say anymore. There is no visible reason to believe the game is as you say it is. At this point I can't believe you are town anymore. Or you'll do something more than just kill someone when you die. I'm not voting you yet because I want ice's replacement/modkill issue to finish first.
*ninja'd by thor Could you not go around asking for votes for mvp? That makes me want to lynch you purely out of spite. Just play it like a game to win, not a game for a reward.
@ Thort skim much?? already voted for Dakky, and wanting to be MVP is just plain scummy, there is something not right about you ? maybe Dakky is right and you started of as an innocent child but turned into something else like 3rd party, hell I don't know ? I just don't like your attitude in this game.
madmitch wrote:@ Thort skim much?? already voted for Dakky, and wanting to be MVP is just plain scummy, there is something not right about you ? maybe Dakky is right and you started of as an innocent child but turned into something else like 3rd party, hell I don't know ? I just don't like your attitude in this game.
Wow (and 'Wow' at samlen too). Obviously, asking about 'MVP' is a joke, at least a semi-joke... but if wanting it is scummy, then I guess we're all scum. Besides I know, I'll never win it no matter how much I contribute or how well I paly... Irrationally hating me seems to bring everybody together. I mean look at how much lynch-theat I have to put up even when I'm mod-confirmed as town... and then think about what I have to deal with the rest of the time.
Okay, two pages back, Mitch did vote dakky. Fair enough. Now it really is time for a new vote count.
I know Pika hates my meta talk, but I still believe that with how retarded dakky has been playing he must be town. The only part of Dakky's defence I get is this:
dakky21 wrote:Skoff, as a 3rd party in Mass Effect mafia I wanted to lynch both town and scum so it didn't matter who I pick on... hence the lot of posts. Here I need to pick only scum so it's pretty much different
Dakky has played pretty well from what I have seen when he has been non-town, whereas he plays like shit when he is town sided. (soz) I'm just having a hard time believing that dakky who rekt us in ME turned into such a terrible scum player all of a sudden. Some people are just better at playing one side than the other and dakky just can't play town. Ultimately a lynch of dakky even if town is better for us at this point then not lynching again, so I will vote that way only if it becomes absolutely necessary - however I still standby my statement that I think we should lynch someone else today. And if we DO lynch Dakky I want to know who he will shoot first before we lynch him so that person has the chance to defend themselves if they happen to be a PR. For now
Unvote vote mudpuppy
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Skoffin wrote:And if we DO lynch Dakky I want to know who he will shoot first before we lynch him so that person has the chance to defend themselves if they happen to be a PR. For now
Uhh, wait a minute, let's break that down a little further.... assuming dakky is even really vengeful.
If dakky is town he should try to venge-kill a likely scum. He might want to either not state or lie about that so that the scumster won't be able to protect themselves but he may want to say so in order to catch scum in a false claim... but that is a long shot.
If dakky is scum, he will almost certainly lie about who he will venge-kill and he may lie in the hopes of getting one or more townie's to give a a claim in self-defense.
Remember town, if dakky says he's going to venge-kill you, don't panic. He might even be lying about it anyway.
Also Skoffin, would you state or restate your reason for voting MudPuppy? If it's just a delaying tactic it would be better to just not vote.
It appears I'm on L-1. Well, I can say I will not shoot Thor, because of the reasons stated before. So Thor, have no fear, you'll get lynched anyway soon. This is a bastard game and you know it.
I guess we will have a dead chat so now I'm thinking who is the best pick to chat with while being dead.
Well, you decide it, I'll probably take the one who hammers me.
Reasons to vote for mitch (sorry for the redundant parts if you didn't skim through my posts)
madmitch wrote:Wow what a lucky night for us especially Thort, Dakky asking about actions does sound scummy but I think he might be on to something. Do we start all over with new suspects or should we be like Rags and stick to our D1 favorites and push them harder? I was suspicious of Thort until he was proven town and then Ifollowed Skoffin lead on Hot Shot but basically the vote was split and time ran out so there was not much pressure put on the suspects we had,right now I am thinking either MM or HS ,they seemed to be the popular ones at the moment
His first post of D2: raises concern over dakky's role fishing, only to double down on it. Also basically says he's going for a bandwagon. He does FOS dakky later on for his role fishing though.
madmitch wrote:Well I am screwed either way, get on the BW for Dakky or I will get voted out, Skoffin wants me to hammer him so I die for sure ,but I am not ready to leave this game yet,Dakky will pick me for sure if I get on the BW ,I like my town role and would like to live for another day, If there is another wagon that you guys want me to join I will join it
madmitch wrote:@ Rags, you are right,but I am actually scared, at least when someone votes for me I have a chanch to survive, here I don't think I will, OKAY I WILL as long it ir not the hammer, CAN I HAVE A VOTE COUNT PLEASE
Acting like he knows dakky is a bomb rather than a vengeful townie (though dakky's last post make it sounds like he may indeed kill the hammer.) Incidentally, his soft-claim of a power roles doesn't seem in line with his role-fishing post, since if he had a power role, I would expect he would have said what he did during the night if he was agreeing with dakky. Blatant copy-paste below, skip spoilers if you want
madmitch wrote:@ Thort skim much?? already voted for Dakky, and wanting to be MVP is just plain scummy, there is something not right about you ? maybe Dakky is right and you started of as an innocent child but turned into something else like 3rd party, hell I don't know ? I just don't like your attitude in this game.
Has been agreeing with dakky a lot. mitch actually started saying he was still wary of thor before dakky in what looked like an OMGUS moment (re:spoilers) though, but he doubled down later. OMGUS moment in D1 when he asked dakky to keep pressuring thor instead of him just after dakky said he believed thor was town. People have also raised issues of him being overly defensive
Reasons to vote for dakky: - Very scummy beginning of the day, and he said he wasn't even trying to get lynched (lying about it being LV's first game, voting for thor, asking for a role claim, ...) - Possibly tries to scare people off from voting for him, first saying he would kill thor, then whoever hammers him (btw, what's up with that list of suspects if he just wants to kill the hammer? Why even come up with it?) - Inconsistent on what his role say
dakky21 wrote:because the more people is on me, the more damage it will cause (I'm not saying about lynch, you can lynch me without consequences I believe).
While before he said someone (read one person) would die with him if he gets lynched - Skimming what seems like a lot of posts, since there have been a lot of talks on who we'd want the target to be. - I probably forgot other reasons
TBH, it's a thight choice between dakky and mitch. I am totally fine with hammering if no one does it soonish before the deadline, but for now I will stick with mitch.
People who I consider good choices for a potential shot from dakky - HS & MM: minimal activity, and they both had BWs going against them on D1, so it could give us info - mitch: not as eager after he soft-claimed, as he soft-claimed a power role, but still looks very scummy to me - recent FOS to MudPuppy:
MudPuppy wrote:
BuJaber wrote:For the hesitant/cautious lot.. if y'all want to wait for IP's replacement we will wait. But if a deadline is announced I expect a lynch. We have enough good suspects that we can manage this. Any delays then would look very scummy.
I, as a member of the hesitant/cautious lot, am on board with this approach. I prefer to wait for a replacement to join but also don't want to see another no-lynch day.
MudPuppy wrote:I suggest you don't shoot Thor. Pretty fine with whoever you think best after that. Not sure I understand who your groups are or why you group them in that fashion... but whatever floats your boat. If you think random is best, then go for it. Whatever you choose, we'd get some good information.
I don't see how you can advocate caution, then say on your next post you're on board with dakky killing at random.
Finally, and this discussion got burried down over the debate over whether we should lynch dakky, but skoff posted a while ago that he'd like everyone to post who his top 3 scum picks were and I think it's a good idea. So far, I've seen such lists from DDS, Flores, me and BuJ (sorry if I forgot anybody)
Minister Masket wrote:Incidentally I wouldn't even bother attempting to aim for the MVP award. I got it for the Lion King game...and my reward? Nothing!
Just making sure, you know the reward is supposed to be credits and you'd need to redeem your premium membership through the store right? I remember seeing a post (I think it was by Mets) saying the credits were issued. You should file a e-ticket or pm whoever said that if you don't have them credits.
dakky21 wrote:This as this may sound as I'm hiding something, but I have a reason to believe it is a bastard setup and that's why I think Thor is not town, while even being confirmed town from mod. While I am vengeful town, I am different. Please don't question it because the more people is on me, the more damage it will cause (I'm not saying about lynch, you can lynch me without consequences I believe).
Are you being different from a regular vengeful town because you're scum ? Caught you there, didn't I?
ZaBeast wrote:And what about your role? Pika wanted to know if anybody was playing more than one character. He said he had information he would share if no one was.
You helping to promote Pika's role-fishing tease, Beast? The setup question is fine (though probably not very helpful) but then going straight into asking him about his role... with a decent potential for a brand new player to offer more than was asked?!? Hmmm.
ZaBeast wrote: And what about your role? Pika wanted to know if anybody was playing more than one character. He said he had information he would share if no one was.
It defo feels like an attempt to ambush the newcomer. Meanie! Defo got my eye on ZaBeast for that one. I don't see any reason to remove my vote, however. Someone else vote for MM so we can get a claim and move on from there.
Samlen wrote:9. ZaBeast - Fair amount of activity/post length. Can only conclusively say not scummarining. The bit where he promoted pika's role-fishing rubs me wrong.
btw, where are all the players that found me suspicious for asking KJ about his role (when, as I stated before, my intent was to ask him about whether he was playing a double dwarf)? I can understand for Rag, since he's been consistently voting MM, but the other two? If a poorly phrased question that could be seen as fishing for one player's role is scummy, how are you not all voting dakky? You're all getting FOSes from me if he gets lynched and flips scum. Disclaimer: I didn't forget HS, but he is on the dakky wagon
dammit I forgot again I wanted to ask that, but @pika, is you question answered with the modkill? I'm very curious about your *special* info. Hope you'll tell us when the game ends if you can't now.
. Of course, tomorrow, we'll vote 
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? Caught you there, didn't I? 
