saxitoxin wrote:We have no idea of the impact of COVID-19 on the vaccinated ...
Is it working? Is it not? Who knows?!
The CDC Only Tracks a Fraction of Breakthrough COVID-19 Infections, Even as Cases SurgeAs the pandemic enters a critical new phase, public health authorities continue to lack data on crucial questions, just as they did when COVID-19 first tore through the United States in the spring of 2020. Today there remains no full understanding on how the aggressively contagious delta variant spreads among the nearly 200 million partially or fully vaccinated Americans like Ingram, or on how many are getting sick.
The nation is flying blind yet again, critics say, because on May 1 of this year — as the new variant found a foothold in the U.S. — the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention mostly stopped tracking COVID-19 in vaccinated people, also known as breakthrough cases, unless the illness was severe enough to cause hospitalization or death.
https://www.govexec.com/management/2021 ... ge/184711/
Read the entirety of this report cited by saxi and NOT JUST the parts he selects to try to advance his FALSE NARRATIVE.
HERE is direct refutation of saxi's allegation from HIS OWN source:Some county-level officials said they track as many breakthrough cases as possible even if their state and the CDC does not.
For instance, in Clark County, Nevada, home of Las Vegas, the public health website reported that as of last week there were 225 hospitalized breakthrough cases but 4,377 vaccinated people overall who have tested positive for the coronavirus.
That means that less than 5% of reported breakthrough cases resulted in hospitalization. “The Southern Nevada Health District tracks the total number of fully vaccinated individuals who test positive for COVID-19 and it is a method to provide a fuller picture of what is occurring in our community,” said Stephanie Bethel, a spokesperson for the health district in an email.
NOW, ask yourself this question: SO WHAT? Does this make you safer? Does this say vaccines DO NOT work? NO, IT DOES NOT Say that, so
get the vaccine.
Does this say the threat of COVID is larger? Maybe it is; IF SO,
then get the vaccine. PERIOD.
I will select MORE parts from saxi's OWN SOURCE:
And as the new CDC data showed, vaccines continue to effectively shield vaccinated people against the worst outcomes.
The vaccine rollout late last year came with cautious optimism. No vaccine is 100% percent effective against transmission, health officials warned, but the three authorized vaccines proved exceedingly effective against the original COVID-19 strain. The CDC reported a breakthrough infection rate of 0.01% for the months between January and the end of April, although it acknowledged it could be an undercount.
“The world changed,” said Dr. Eric Topol, director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute, “when delta invaded.”
The current crush of U.S. cases — well over 100,000 per day — has hit the unvaccinated by far the hardest, leaving them at greater risk of serious illness or death. The delta variant is considered at least two or three times more infectious than the original strain of the coronavirus.
The CDC said in an emailed statement to ProPublica that it decided to focus on the most serious cases because officials believed more targeted data collection would better inform “response research, decisions, and policy.”
“We’ve had a patchwork of information between states since the beginning of the pandemic,” said Jen Kates, senior vice president and director of global health and HIV policy at Kaiser Family Foundation.
She is co-author of a July 30 study that found breakthrough cases across the U.S. remained rare, especially those leading to hospitalization or death. However, the study acknowledged that information was limited because state reporting was spotty. Only half the states provide some data on COVID-19 illnesses in vaccinated people.
“There is no single, public repository for data by state or data on breakthrough infections, since the CDC stopped monitoring them,” the report said.
“We will be making some additions to what we are posting, and these data could be included in the future,” the [Texas state Health and Human Services Commission] spokesperson said.
South Carolina, on the other hand, makes public its breakthrough numbers on hospitalizations and deaths. Milder breakthrough cases may be included in the state’s overall COVID-19 numbers but they are not labeled as such, said Jane Kelly, an epidemiologist at the South Carolina Department of Health and Environmental Control.
“We agree with the CDC,” she said, “there’s no need to spend public health resources investigating every asymptomatic or mild infection.”
So we do know and we do have SOME idea, but not as complete a picture because of a lack of data. I expect the CDC will have to change how they track the data. They will be under increasing pressure to fix this MINOR PROBLEM with their data collection as regards to Break-Through cases caused by the Delta variant.
But the trends and overall picture support what I have been saying ALL ALONG:
The COVID vaccines are HIGHLY EFFECTIVE and do not let saxi or other narrow-minded people tell you that they are NOT effective. Do not believe his FAKE NEWS or his twisting of facts to fit
the LIES saxi consistently tells.