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Re: Who take vaccine?

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:11 pm

Let us assume for the sake of argument that the Rev. Jesse Jackson, Sr. and his wife DIE Of COVID. (And I am NOT predicting or wishing this in ANY WAY, but JUST play along with the scenario for a bit, please).

What does this mean? NOT Much and that two individuals DO NOT A TREND MAKE. The deaths of two people, sad as that may be, especially for their famiiy, do not PROVE the vaccine is dangerous, OVERALL. It merely points out that:
1) no drug or vaccine is 100% effective, and
2) that older people are more likely to suffer from the ravages of COVID.

Look at the data I already quoted, on the order of about 0.005% (as I recall).

The CDC is tracking those cases on their website and the numbers change weekly. But, so far, fewer than 0.005% of fully vaccinated Americans have experienced a breakthrough case resulting in hospitalization or death. That doesn’t mean it’s not impossible to experience a breakthrough case or even experience symptoms but the odds of serious illness, if you’re fully vaccinated, remain minuscule.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/breakthrough-covid-cases/

So again, saxi is the Chicken running around CLAIMING that the Sky is Falling...!! when it is merely saxi's homemade rocket (full of horse manure) crashing back to earth on his house.
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Re: Who take vaccine?

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:43 pm

jusplay4fun wrote:
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jusplay4fun wrote:2) Jesse Jackson is over 70 and that puts him at risk from COVID. In fact, he (and his wife) are over 75.


Up until this morning, this was the talking point ...


Jesse Jackson and his wife were fully vaccinated and are both now laying in an intensive care unit in the hospital with tubes running out of them. By definition, that means the vaccine is not "100% effective in preventing severe disease."

The vax lobby change the talking points daily. The vaxxed, who are too terrified to admit they've willingly had an ineffective drug injected into them for which they have no recourse in event something goes wrong, simply accept the daily flip-flops without batting an eye. Confronting the reality of the permanent and irreversible change they've just made to their bodies - based on faltering evidence - is too much to bear.


NO reputable scientist or medical person would claim any vaccine is 100% effective against anything.


Fact 1: Above is a link in which Pfizer says their vaccine is 100% effective against severe COVID-19.
Fact 2: jusplay4fun says that "no reputable scientist" will claim a vaccine is "100% effective against anything"
Therefore: jusplay4fun believes Pfizer is not staffed by reputable scientists

I choose not to get a vaccine prepared by disreputable scientists.
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Re: Who take vaccine?

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:43 pm

Australian citizens are planning to overwhelm police vax barricades on the New South Wales border in the upcoming week. A pre-attack rally was held in Sydney today.



It's inspiring to see activists fighting for freedom. Of course, all the sheep in this thread are baaaa baaaaaing their disapproval, shaking their heads in unison at the rulers being disobeyed.

"Baaaaa-xine, Baaaa-xine, Obey the Rulers, Baaaa-xine, Obeeeyyyyy, Obeeyyyyy the police. Be silent. We must obeeeyyyy. Obeeeyyyy the rulers. We're queuing at a sheep massage parlor, not a slaughterhouse. Obeeeeyyy the Rulers. They will give us baaaa-xine if we're good. Give me baaaaa-xine. More baaaa-xine."
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Re: Who take vaccine?

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun Aug 22, 2021 3:05 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:
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jusplay4fun wrote:2) Jesse Jackson is over 70 and that puts him at risk from COVID. In fact, he (and his wife) are over 75.


Up until this morning, this was the talking point ...


Jesse Jackson and his wife were fully vaccinated and are both now laying in an intensive care unit in the hospital with tubes running out of them. By definition, that means the vaccine is not "100% effective in preventing severe disease."

The vax lobby change the talking points daily. The vaxxed, who are too terrified to admit they've willingly had an ineffective drug injected into them for which they have no recourse in event something goes wrong, simply accept the daily flip-flops without batting an eye. Confronting the reality of the permanent and irreversible change they've just made to their bodies - based on faltering evidence - is too much to bear.


NO reputable scientist or medical person would claim any vaccine is 100% effective against anything.


Fact 1: Above is a link in which Pfizer says their vaccine is 100% effective against severe COVID-19.
Fact 2: jusplay4fun says that "no reputable scientist" will claim a vaccine is "100% effective against anything"
Therefore: jusplay4fun believes Pfizer is not staffed by reputable scientists

I choose not to get a vaccine prepared by disreputable scientists.


You again MISSED The point, saxi. Wide RIGHT.

YOUR LOGIC is terrible, too.

I will give saxi a D- for ATTEMPTING to use a syllogism, but he is far from understanding how to properly draw conclusions or use a syllogism. FOR that saxi get another F for FAILURE.
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Re: Who take vaccine?

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun Aug 22, 2021 3:35 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:2) Jesse Jackson is over 70 and that puts him at risk from COVID. In fact, he (and his wife) are over 75.


Up until this morning, this was the talking point ...


Jesse Jackson and his wife were fully vaccinated and are both now laying in an intensive care unit in the hospital with tubes running out of them. By definition, that means the vaccine is not "100% effective in preventing severe disease."

The vax lobby change the talking points daily. The vaxxed, who are too terrified to admit they've willingly had an ineffective drug injected into them for which they have no recourse in event something goes wrong, simply accept the daily flip-flops without batting an eye. Confronting the reality of the permanent and irreversible change they've just made to their bodies - based on faltering evidence - is too much to bear.


NO reputable scientist or medical person would claim any vaccine is 100% effective against anything.


Fact 1: Above is a link in which Pfizer says their vaccine is 100% effective against severe COVID-19.
Fact 2: jusplay4fun says that "no reputable scientist" will claim a vaccine is "100% effective against anything"
Therefore: jusplay4fun believes Pfizer is not staffed by reputable scientists

I choose not to get a vaccine prepared by disreputable scientists.


saxi said:
Up until this morning, this was the talking point ...


Vaccine was 100% effective in preventing severe disease

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-relea ... no-serious


Here is the information from HIS CITED SOURCE:

NEWS/ Pfizer and BioNTech Confirm High Efficacy and No Serious Safety Concerns Through Up to Six Months Following Second Dose in Updated Topline Analysis of Landmark COVID-19 Vaccine Study
PFIZER AND BIONTECH CONFIRM HIGH EFFICACY AND NO SERIOUS SAFETY CONCERNS THROUGH UP TO SIX MONTHS FOLLOWING SECOND DOSE IN UPDATED TOPLINE ANALYSIS OF LANDMARK COVID-19 VACCINE STUDY
Thursday, April 01, 2021 - 06:45am

Saxi wants to allege that this claim was made THIS MORNING, but saxi needs to wake from his long slumber because we are now in AUGUST, not April 2021. OR PERHAPS he was attempting a JOKE since the date of his quote from Pfizer is April 1.

saxi, you have already been shown that you made an error THREE times (by both Duk and me) trying to spin this false narrative by using OLD quotes from the vaccine TRIALS. But you want to keep repeating the same LIE and keep spinning the false narrative. STOP spreading fake news, saxi.

Then he tries to use this fake news to twist my words and tries to use logic to make himself an expert on logic and science. He is neither. He is a narrow-minded and myopic person who cannot use reliable, up-to-date, and/or relevant facts. He then draws poor conclusions from poor facts. Imagine that, that one draws incorrect conclusions from WRONG. twisted, or misleading facts. IN other words, lies from saxi lead to more lies. WOW…NEWS FLASH. Saxi is wrong AGAIN. IMAGINE THAT…!
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Re: Who take vaccine?

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:37 pm

We have no idea of the impact of COVID-19 on the vaccinated ...

Is it working? Is it not? Who knows?!

The CDC Only Tracks a Fraction of Breakthrough COVID-19 Infections, Even as Cases Surge

As the pandemic enters a critical new phase, public health authorities continue to lack data on crucial questions, just as they did when COVID-19 first tore through the United States in the spring of 2020. Today there remains no full understanding on how the aggressively contagious delta variant spreads among the nearly 200 million partially or fully vaccinated Americans like Ingram, or on how many are getting sick.

The nation is flying blind yet again, critics say, because on May 1 of this year — as the new variant found a foothold in the U.S. — the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention mostly stopped tracking COVID-19 in vaccinated people, also known as breakthrough cases, unless the illness was severe enough to cause hospitalization or death.

https://www.govexec.com/management/2021 ... ge/184711/
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Re: Who take vaccine?

Postby jusplay4fun on Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:26 pm

saxitoxin wrote:We have no idea of the impact of COVID-19 on the vaccinated ...

Is it working? Is it not? Who knows?!

The CDC Only Tracks a Fraction of Breakthrough COVID-19 Infections, Even as Cases Surge

As the pandemic enters a critical new phase, public health authorities continue to lack data on crucial questions, just as they did when COVID-19 first tore through the United States in the spring of 2020. Today there remains no full understanding on how the aggressively contagious delta variant spreads among the nearly 200 million partially or fully vaccinated Americans like Ingram, or on how many are getting sick.

The nation is flying blind yet again, critics say, because on May 1 of this year — as the new variant found a foothold in the U.S. — the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention mostly stopped tracking COVID-19 in vaccinated people, also known as breakthrough cases, unless the illness was severe enough to cause hospitalization or death.

https://www.govexec.com/management/2021 ... ge/184711/


Read the entirety of this report cited by saxi and NOT JUST the parts he selects to try to advance his FALSE NARRATIVE.

HERE is direct refutation of saxi's allegation from HIS OWN source:

Some county-level officials said they track as many breakthrough cases as possible even if their state and the CDC does not.

For instance, in Clark County, Nevada, home of Las Vegas, the public health website reported that as of last week there were 225 hospitalized breakthrough cases but 4,377 vaccinated people overall who have tested positive for the coronavirus.

That means that less than 5% of reported breakthrough cases resulted in hospitalization. “The Southern Nevada Health District tracks the total number of fully vaccinated individuals who test positive for COVID-19 and it is a method to provide a fuller picture of what is occurring in our community,” said Stephanie Bethel, a spokesperson for the health district in an email.


NOW, ask yourself this question: SO WHAT? Does this make you safer? Does this say vaccines DO NOT work? NO, IT DOES NOT Say that, so get the vaccine.

Does this say the threat of COVID is larger? Maybe it is; IF SO, then get the vaccine. PERIOD.

I will select MORE parts from saxi's OWN SOURCE:

And as the new CDC data showed, vaccines continue to effectively shield vaccinated people against the worst outcomes.


The vaccine rollout late last year came with cautious optimism. No vaccine is 100% percent effective against transmission, health officials warned, but the three authorized vaccines proved exceedingly effective against the original COVID-19 strain. The CDC reported a breakthrough infection rate of 0.01% for the months between January and the end of April, although it acknowledged it could be an undercount.


“The world changed,” said Dr. Eric Topol, director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute, “when delta invaded.”

The current crush of U.S. cases — well over 100,000 per day — has hit the unvaccinated by far the hardest, leaving them at greater risk of serious illness or death. The delta variant is considered at least two or three times more infectious than the original strain of the coronavirus.


The CDC said in an emailed statement to ProPublica that it decided to focus on the most serious cases because officials believed more targeted data collection would better inform “response research, decisions, and policy.”


“We’ve had a patchwork of information between states since the beginning of the pandemic,” said Jen Kates, senior vice president and director of global health and HIV policy at Kaiser Family Foundation.

She is co-author of a July 30 study that found breakthrough cases across the U.S. remained rare, especially those leading to hospitalization or death. However, the study acknowledged that information was limited because state reporting was spotty. Only half the states provide some data on COVID-19 illnesses in vaccinated people.

“There is no single, public repository for data by state or data on breakthrough infections, since the CDC stopped monitoring them,” the report said.


“We will be making some additions to what we are posting, and these data could be included in the future,” the [Texas state Health and Human Services Commission] spokesperson said.

South Carolina, on the other hand, makes public its breakthrough numbers on hospitalizations and deaths. Milder breakthrough cases may be included in the state’s overall COVID-19 numbers but they are not labeled as such, said Jane Kelly, an epidemiologist at the South Carolina Department of Health and Environmental Control.

“We agree with the CDC,” she said, “there’s no need to spend public health resources investigating every asymptomatic or mild infection.”


So we do know and we do have SOME idea, but not as complete a picture because of a lack of data. I expect the CDC will have to change how they track the data. They will be under increasing pressure to fix this MINOR PROBLEM with their data collection as regards to Break-Through cases caused by the Delta variant.

But the trends and overall picture support what I have been saying ALL ALONG: The COVID vaccines are HIGHLY EFFECTIVE and do not let saxi or other narrow-minded people tell you that they are NOT effective. Do not believe his FAKE NEWS or his twisting of facts to fit the LIES saxi consistently tells.
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Re: Who take vaccine?

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:23 pm

I love this. I can post six words and a link and it prompts JP4F to write a novel.
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Re: Who take vaccine?

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:24 pm

mRNA vaccine = guaranteed death within 24 months

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Re: Who take vaccine?

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:36 pm

Highly Vaccinated Israel Is Seeing A Dramatic Surge In New COVID Cases

Israel was the first country on Earth to fully vaccinate a majority of its citizens against COVID-19. Now it has one of the world's highest daily infection rates — an average of nearly 7,500 confirmed cases a day, double what it was two weeks ago. Nearly one in every 150 people in Israel today has the virus.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandso ... -heres-why


HERE'S WHY.
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Re: Who take vaccine?

Postby riskllama on Tue Aug 24, 2021 7:46 pm

saxitoxin wrote:I love this. I can post six words and a link and it prompts JP4F to write a novel.


yeah, getting trolled pretty hard in this one... :lol:
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Re: Who take vaccine?

Postby HitRed on Tue Aug 24, 2021 7:57 pm

JP builds himself up by stepping on others. He’s power hungry.
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Re: Who take vaccine?

Postby jusplay4fun on Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:13 pm

saxitoxin wrote:mRNA vaccine = guaranteed death within 24 months

JP4F ... GO!


Nothing new here; more lies.
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Re: Who take vaccine?

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:16 am

WOW!!!

Spain's Supreme Constitutional Court has just struck down a Spanish government vaccine passport mandate on two grounds, the second of which essentially reinforces what I've been saying.

https://www.infolibre.es/noticias/polit ... _1012.html

    1. Vaccine passports violate the rights of privacy and bodily integrity

    2. Vaccine passports can't be justified by science since a growing body of evidence indicates widespread vaccination is actually making the pandemic worse by triggering mutations. Therefore, there is no rational grounds to impose policies designed to encourage vaccination outside of high risk populations. Because Spain's constitution requires all laws and regulations to be based on Reason, the requirement is unconstitutional.
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Re: Who take vaccine?

Postby bigtoughralf on Wed Aug 25, 2021 4:21 am

The evidence seems to be that immunity due to recovery from infection is better and longer lasting than a vaccine. Boris’s herd immunity is looking increasingly vindicated by the day.
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Re: Who take vaccine?

Postby jusplay4fun on Wed Aug 25, 2021 4:37 am

jusplay4fun wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:We have no idea of the impact of COVID-19 on the vaccinated ...

Is it working? Is it not? Who knows?!

The CDC Only Tracks a Fraction of Breakthrough COVID-19 Infections, Even as Cases Surge

As the pandemic enters a critical new phase, public health authorities continue to lack data on crucial questions, just as they did when COVID-19 first tore through the United States in the spring of 2020. Today there remains no full understanding on how the aggressively contagious delta variant spreads among the nearly 200 million partially or fully vaccinated Americans like Ingram, or on how many are getting sick.

The nation is flying blind yet again, critics say, because on May 1 of this year — as the new variant found a foothold in the U.S. — the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention mostly stopped tracking COVID-19 in vaccinated people, also known as breakthrough cases, unless the illness was severe enough to cause hospitalization or death.

https://www.govexec.com/management/2021 ... ge/184711/


Read the entirety of this report cited by saxi and NOT JUST the parts he selects to try to advance his FALSE NARRATIVE.

HERE is direct refutation of saxi's allegation from HIS OWN source:

Some county-level officials said they track as many breakthrough cases as possible even if their state and the CDC does not.

For instance, in Clark County, Nevada, home of Las Vegas, the public health website reported that as of last week there were 225 hospitalized breakthrough cases but 4,377 vaccinated people overall who have tested positive for the coronavirus.

That means that less than 5% of reported breakthrough cases resulted in hospitalization. “The Southern Nevada Health District tracks the total number of fully vaccinated individuals who test positive for COVID-19 and it is a method to provide a fuller picture of what is occurring in our community,” said Stephanie Bethel, a spokesperson for the health district in an email.


NOW, ask yourself this question: SO WHAT? Does this make you safer? Does this say vaccines DO NOT work? NO, IT DOES NOT Say that, so get the vaccine.

Does this say the threat of COVID is larger? Maybe it is; IF SO, then get the vaccine. PERIOD.

I will select MORE parts from saxi's OWN SOURCE:

And as the new CDC data showed, vaccines continue to effectively shield vaccinated people against the worst outcomes.


The vaccine rollout late last year came with cautious optimism. No vaccine is 100% percent effective against transmission, health officials warned, but the three authorized vaccines proved exceedingly effective against the original COVID-19 strain. The CDC reported a breakthrough infection rate of 0.01% for the months between January and the end of April, although it acknowledged it could be an undercount.


“The world changed,” said Dr. Eric Topol, director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute, “when delta invaded.”

The current crush of U.S. cases — well over 100,000 per day — has hit the unvaccinated by far the hardest, leaving them at greater risk of serious illness or death. The delta variant is considered at least two or three times more infectious than the original strain of the coronavirus.


The CDC said in an emailed statement to ProPublica that it decided to focus on the most serious cases because officials believed more targeted data collection would better inform “response research, decisions, and policy.”


“We’ve had a patchwork of information between states since the beginning of the pandemic,” said Jen Kates, senior vice president and director of global health and HIV policy at Kaiser Family Foundation.

She is co-author of a July 30 study that found breakthrough cases across the U.S. remained rare, especially those leading to hospitalization or death. However, the study acknowledged that information was limited because state reporting was spotty. Only half the states provide some data on COVID-19 illnesses in vaccinated people.

“There is no single, public repository for data by state or data on breakthrough infections, since the CDC stopped monitoring them,” the report said.


“We will be making some additions to what we are posting, and these data could be included in the future,” the [Texas state Health and Human Services Commission] spokesperson said.

South Carolina, on the other hand, makes public its breakthrough numbers on hospitalizations and deaths. Milder breakthrough cases may be included in the state’s overall COVID-19 numbers but they are not labeled as such, said Jane Kelly, an epidemiologist at the South Carolina Department of Health and Environmental Control.

“We agree with the CDC,” she said, “there’s no need to spend public health resources investigating every asymptomatic or mild infection.”


So we do know and we do have SOME idea, but not as complete a picture because of a lack of data. I expect the CDC will have to change how they track the data. They will be under increasing pressure to fix this MINOR PROBLEM with their data collection as regards to Break-Through cases caused by the Delta variant.

But the trends and overall picture support what I have been saying ALL ALONG: The COVID vaccines are HIGHLY EFFECTIVE and do not let saxi or other narrow-minded people tell you that they are NOT effective. Do not believe his FAKE NEWS or his twisting of facts to fit the LIES saxi consistently tells.


NOTE that saxi has NO answer for my refutation here. He wants to claim that I am being played.

In debate, one of the best ways to turn AND WIN an argument is to use the source of your opponent against your opponent. I did so and showed in a cogent (but not concise) manner, that saxi is LYING, AGAIN. He ignores that overwhelming evidence to try to taunt me.

It did not work; I showed that saxi LIED. Enough said.
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Re: Who take vaccine?

Postby jusplay4fun on Wed Aug 25, 2021 4:43 am

saxitoxin wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:2) Jesse Jackson is over 70 and that puts him at risk from COVID. In fact, he (and his wife) are over 75.


Up until this morning, this was the talking point ...


Jesse Jackson and his wife were fully vaccinated and are both now laying in an intensive care unit in the hospital with tubes running out of them. By definition, that means the vaccine is not "100% effective in preventing severe disease."

The vax lobby change the talking points daily. The vaxxed, who are too terrified to admit they've willingly had an ineffective drug injected into them for which they have no recourse in event something goes wrong, simply accept the daily flip-flops without batting an eye. Confronting the reality of the permanent and irreversible change they've just made to their bodies - based on faltering evidence - is too much to bear.


NO reputable scientist or medical person would claim any vaccine is 100% effective against anything.


Fact 1: Above is a link in which Pfizer says their vaccine is 100% effective against severe COVID-19.
Fact 2: jusplay4fun says that "no reputable scientist" will claim a vaccine is "100% effective against anything"
Therefore: jusplay4fun believes Pfizer is not staffed by reputable scientists

I choose not to get a vaccine prepared by disreputable scientists.


Again, saxi selects ONLY the parts to argue his TERRIBLE logic. Here is the ENTIRE quote from Pfizer:

PFIZER AND BIONTECH CONFIRM HIGH EFFICACY AND NO SERIOUS SAFETY CONCERNS THROUGH UP TO SIX MONTHS FOLLOWING SECOND DOSE IN UPDATED TOPLINE ANALYSIS OF LANDMARK COVID-19 VACCINE STUDY
Thursday, April 01, 2021 - 06:45am
Analysis of 927 confirmed symptomatic cases of COVID-19 demonstrates BNT162b2 is highly effective with 91.3% vaccine efficacy observed against COVID-19, measured seven days through up to six months after the second dose
Vaccine was 100% effective in preventing severe disease as defined by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and 95.3% effective in preventing severe disease as defined by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration
Vaccine was 100% effective in preventing COVID-19 cases in South Africa, where the B.1.351 lineage is prevalent
Vaccine safety now evaluated in more than 44,000 participants 16 years of age and older, with more than 12,000 vaccinated participants having at least six months follow-up after their second dose
The companies plan to share these results with worldwide regulatory agencies soon


It does NOT SAY that the vaccine prevents 100% of all COVID cases. saxi continues to lie and mislead and misrepresent the facts. He continues to peddle in fake news.
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Re: Who take vaccine?

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:00 am

Frankenvaxed are beginning to get increasingly worried ... rightly so ... the narrative is unraveling, leaving the BioPure the healthy population and the Frankenvaxxed as the Walkers, unable to undo the injections.

The Vaccinated Are Worried and Scientists Don’t Have Answers

Anecdotes tell us what the data can’t: Vaccinated people appear to be getting the coronavirus at a surprisingly high rate. But exactly how often isn’t clear, nor is it certain how likely they are to spread the virus to others.

Though it is evident vaccination still provides powerful protection against the virus, there’s growing concern that vaccinated people may be more vulnerable to serious illness than previously thought.

There’s a dearth of scientific studies with concrete answers, leaving public policy makers and corporate executives to formulate plans based on fragmented information. While some are renewing mask mandates or delaying office reopenings, others cite the lack of clarity to justify staying the course. It can all feel like a mess.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... vaccinated
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Re: Who take vaccine?

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Aug 26, 2021 6:37 pm

Science: COVID-19 significantly less lethal than previously thought, 31% of Americans Had COVID-19 in December 2020!

A new study published in the journal Nature estimates that 103 million Americans, or 31 percent of the U.S. population, had been infected with SARS-CoV-2 by the end of 2020. Columbia University Mailman School of Public Health researchers modeled the spread of the coronavirus, finding that fewer than one-quarter of infections (22%) were accounted for in cases confirmed through public health reports based on testing.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-08- ... id--1.html


Science: Vaccines offer almost no defense against new COVID-19 variants

A new laboratory study from Oregon Health & Science University finds that blood serum drawn from people previously vaccinated or naturally infected show "significantly reduced" defense against two widely circulating variants of the novel coronavirus SARS-CoV-2.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-08- ... ovid-.html
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Re: Who take vaccine?

Postby jonesthecurl on Thu Aug 26, 2021 6:46 pm

I don't know how widespread this is, but locally they are testing sewage for indications of folk who are infected. There appears to be a problem in my immediate vicinity, so I'm gonna get tested again asap.
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Re: Who take vaccine?

Postby jusplay4fun on Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:08 pm

saxitoxin wrote:Science: COVID-19 significantly less lethal than previously thought, 31% of Americans Had COVID-19 in December 2020!

A new study published in the journal Nature estimates that 103 million Americans, or 31 percent of the U.S. population, had been infected with SARS-CoV-2 by the end of 2020. Columbia University Mailman School of Public Health researchers modeled the spread of the coronavirus, finding that fewer than one-quarter of infections (22%) were accounted for in cases confirmed through public health reports based on testing.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-08- ... id--1.html


Science: Vaccines offer almost no defense against new COVID-19 variants

A new laboratory study from Oregon Health & Science University finds that blood serum drawn from people previously vaccinated or naturally infected show "significantly reduced" defense against two widely circulating variants of the novel coronavirus SARS-CoV-2.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-08- ... ovid-.html


As usual, saxi tells an incomplete and COMPLETELY misleading Narrative. Again, from saxi's OWN source from which he only quotes that part that SEEMS to support his false narrative, BUT DOES NOT support his false ideas in actuality.

A new laboratory study from Oregon Health & Science University finds that blood serum drawn from people previously vaccinated or naturally infected show "significantly reduced" defense against two widely circulating variants of the novel coronavirus SARS-CoV-2.
Researchers said that their findings emphasize the importance of vaccinations combined with maintaining public health measures to cut off the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

Even so, researchers took it as a positive development that vaccination and earlier infections still mustered some residual protection against the two variants of concern. That finding appears to be consistent with a general reduction in the rate of hospitalizations and deaths worldwide, despite the increasing prevalence of the variants.

The OHSU findings are generally consistent with other recent reports.


saxi continues to emit GASEOUS obfuscations. As usual, saxi really STINKS up the Place. Again, NOTHING new here.
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Re: Who take vaccine?

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:37 am

America's nursing shortage is about to get worse with 20% planning to quit over the healthcare worker Frankenvaxx mandate.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -hospitals

This is good. After the Frankenvaxxed start dying off I was concerned who would fill critical jobs in the newly depopulated world. If 20% of nurses survive that's a great start!
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Re: Who take vaccine?

Postby jusplay4fun on Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:52 am

saxitoxin wrote:America's nursing shortage is about to get worse with 20% planning to quit over the healthcare worker Frankenvaxx mandate.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -hospitals

This is good. After the Frankenvaxxed start dying off I was concerned who would fill critical jobs in the newly depopulated world. If 20% of nurses survive that's a great start!


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