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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby Qwert on Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:22 am

Good news, Retired US general Kellogg say Russia losing a war
Also US and Poland play ping pong with MIg Airplanes. Somehow i doubt in unity inside NATO i think that not all in Alliance are ready to go into war against Russia.
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby thegroover on Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:06 pm

Meanwhile the "peace keepers" destroy a maternity hospital.

Wheres that W anchors emoji when you need it? :twisted:
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby JdeV 100 on Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:08 pm

Qwert wrote:Somehow i doubt in unity inside NATO i think that not all in Alliance are ready to go into war against Russia.

NATO is clear: it is preferred to embargo Russia and isolate its leadership, than embrace world war. Do you think they would rather just attack?
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:45 pm

YouTube has just memory-holed Oliver Stone's acclaimed 2015 documentary "Ukraine On Fire" which chronicled the Iran-style CIA involvement in the 2014 overthrow of the Ukrainian government and how the U.S. collaborated with Ukrainian Neo-Nazi groups to accomplish it. The director, Igor Lopatonok, has just reported this on his Twitter account.

https://twitter.com/lopatonok/status/15 ... 7565000704

After six years being available on YouTube, Google removed it completely and purged it from its servers as though the film never existed. A complete memoryholing.

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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:48 pm

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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:57 pm

The Cardiff Philharmonic has cancelled next week's Tchaikovsky concert as Tchaikovsky has not publicly denounced Vladimir Putin.

https://www.classical-music.com/news/ca ... f-ukraine/

Tchaikovsky died in 1893.
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby mookiemcgee on Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:41 pm

saxitoxin wrote:YouTube has just memory-holed Oliver Stone's acclaimed 2015 documentary "Ukraine On Fire" which chronicled the Iran-style CIA involvement in the 2014 overthrow of the Ukrainian government and how the U.S. collaborated with Ukrainian Neo-Nazi groups to accomplish it. The director, Igor Lopatonok, has just reported this on his Twitter account.

https://twitter.com/lopatonok/status/15 ... 7565000704

After six years being available on YouTube, Google removed it completely and purged it from its servers as though the film never existed. A complete memoryholing.



the video below isn't on youtube anymore? Cus this link to the movie... on youtube... seems to be working. Maybe i just don't understand how 'memoryholing' works.

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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:57 pm

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I don't know where you get your news, but here in North America pretty much everyone knows the Karzai regime was a puppet regime.

Maybe in Serbia you're afraid to say that your government is full of shit. But in the West we all say it without hesitation.

Do you know meaning of sarcasm? And why its only Karzai regime are US puppet regime what about Ashraf Ghani ?
And somehow you avoid to say US puppet state.
Its look that you are upset but i dont know a reason . I dont know what will change if i say that my government are full of shit? Are Serbian government are responsible for US debacle in Afghanistan?


Me upset? No. Or at least not about this. Somewhat bemused would be closer to the truth. I can't find a really good word for it.

I just find something weird about the way right-wingers like to state commonly-known facts as if they were deep dark secrets known only to a few.

It's sort-of similar to the way that some like to say "the media won't cover this story" about various things like the truckers' strike, whereas in actual fact it's getting wall-to-wall media coverage. It forms a positive-feedback loop to imagine that some fact is being deliberately withheld, even though it's available on every newstand.

(And by clarification, when I said Karzai regime, I include his successors as part of that.)
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby jusplay4fun on Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:08 pm

thegroover wrote:Meanwhile the "peace keepers" destroy a maternity hospital.

Wheres that W anchors emoji when you need it? :twisted:


Answer THAT, saxi, the Russian Troll

(or at least the pro-Russian Troll) and thus the supporter of the Butcher of Ukraine, pukin' putin. You know, that putin, the "brave" Russian leader killing many, too many, innocent Ukrainian civilians, THAT guy.......
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:44 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:YouTube has just memory-holed Oliver Stone's acclaimed 2015 documentary "Ukraine On Fire" which chronicled the Iran-style CIA involvement in the 2014 overthrow of the Ukrainian government and how the U.S. collaborated with Ukrainian Neo-Nazi groups to accomplish it. The director, Igor Lopatonok, has just reported this on his Twitter account.

https://twitter.com/lopatonok/status/15 ... 7565000704

After six years being available on YouTube, Google removed it completely and purged it from its servers as though the film never existed. A complete memoryholing.



the video below isn't on youtube anymore? Cus this link to the movie... on youtube... seems to be working. Maybe i just don't understand how 'memoryholing' works.



YouTube has reactivated it and is now claiming it's an algorithmic error.
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:46 pm

jusplay4fun wrote:
thegroover wrote:Meanwhile the "peace keepers" destroy a maternity hospital.

Wheres that W anchors emoji when you need it? :twisted:


Answer THAT, saxi, the Russian Troll


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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:04 pm

The Russian Ground Forces have 200 TOS-1A 24-tube thermobaric rocket launchers outside Kiev. These can, together, put 5,000 rockets on target every 15 minutes.



Russia could probably kill and injure 30,000 Kiev residents in the space of an hour at basically zero risk to its own forces. The fact that the great atrocity of the siege of Kiev is that 13 people were injured when a Russian aircraft accidentally hit a hospital should be all the proof a reasonably intelligent person needs that RU is being exceptionally cautious about non-combatant casualties.

You have the option of not being propagandized and brainwashed by the corporate media, if you want. It doesn't require anything more than some critical thinking.
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby mookiemcgee on Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:26 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:YouTube has just memory-holed Oliver Stone's acclaimed 2015 documentary "Ukraine On Fire" which chronicled the Iran-style CIA involvement in the 2014 overthrow of the Ukrainian government and how the U.S. collaborated with Ukrainian Neo-Nazi groups to accomplish it. The director, Igor Lopatonok, has just reported this on his Twitter account.

https://twitter.com/lopatonok/status/15 ... 7565000704

After six years being available on YouTube, Google removed it completely and purged it from its servers as though the film never existed. A complete memoryholing.



the video below isn't on youtube anymore? Cus this link to the movie... on youtube... seems to be working. Maybe i just don't understand how 'memoryholing' works.



YouTube has reactivated it and is now claiming it's an algorithmic error.


re-memory re-holing? after purging everything from servers? if it wasn't for your vigilance posting this we might never have know the truth comrade!
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby mookiemcgee on Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:27 pm

saxitoxin wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:YouTube has just memory-holed Oliver Stone's acclaimed 2015 documentary "Ukraine On Fire" which chronicled the Iran-style CIA involvement in the 2014 overthrow of the Ukrainian government and how the U.S. collaborated with Ukrainian Neo-Nazi groups to accomplish it. The director, Igor Lopatonok, has just reported this on his Twitter account.

https://twitter.com/lopatonok/status/15 ... 7565000704

After six years being available on YouTube, Google removed it completely and purged it from its servers as though the film never existed. A complete memoryholing.



the video below isn't on youtube anymore? Cus this link to the movie... on youtube... seems to be working. Maybe i just don't understand how 'memoryholing' works.



YouTube has reactivated it and is now claiming it's an algorithmic error.


re-memory re-holing? after purging everything from servers? if it wasn't for your vigilance posting this we might never have know the truth comrade!
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby ConfederateSS on Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:58 pm

jusplay4fun wrote:
thegroover wrote:Meanwhile the "peace keepers" destroy a maternity hospital.

Wheres that W anchors emoji when you need it? :twisted:


Answer THAT, saxi, the Russian Troll

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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:19 am

In Germany, the Munich Iatros Clinic has announced it will not provide medical treatment to persons of Belarus or Russian ethnicity.

https://www.rtl.de/cms/muenchen-schock- ... 32473.html

This is how it starts. In the run-up to WW2, Germany also banned ethnic Slavs from medical treatment. It later executed 150,000 Slavs in concentration camps.

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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby jusplay4fun on Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:06 am

This is the side saxi, the Troll of CC and the Pro-Russian voice on CC. Note that his hero is the Butcher of Ukraine, pukin' putin.

They are not winning this war and Ukraine puts up a huge resistance. So he goes to his playbook to try to break the will and determination of the Ukrainian people by attacking civilians and hospitals and other buildings used only by civilians. (Such tactics have been used by invaders and despots many times before. We now define the worst of such actions as possible or actual war crimes.)

I am sure this occurred in Chechnya. There were fewer journalists there and pukin' putin used the cover of "fighting Islamic terrorists" to justify some of his inhumane actions and killing of Islamic civilians. You can see my previous post on this topic.

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Ukraine accuses Russia of genocide after bombing of children's hospital

Wed, March 9, 2022, 10:54 PM
LVIV, Ukraine (Reuters) - Russia's war in Ukraine entered its third week on Thursday with none of its key objectives reached despite thousands of people killed, more than two million made refugees, and thousands forced to cower in besieged cities under relentless bombardment.

Ukrainian forces including citizen-soldiers who only last month never dreamed of firing a weapon in anger were holding out in Kyiv and other frontlines, while Russian troops, tanks and artillery made slow progress from the north, south and east.

Moscow's stated objectives of crushing the Ukrainian military and ousting the pro-Western elected government of President Volodymyr Zelenskiy remained out of reach, with Zelenskiy unshaken and lethal Western military aid pouring across the Polish and Romanian borders.

Western-led sanctions designed to cut the Russian economy and government from international financial markets were beginning to bite, with the Russian sharemarket and rouble plunging and ordinary Russians rushing to hoard cash.

Zelenskiy accused Russia of carrying out genocide after Ukrainian officials said Russian aircraft bombed a children's hospital on Wednesday, burying patients in rubble despite a ceasefire deal for people to flee the besieged city of Mariupol.

The attack, which authorities said injured women in labour and left children in the wreckage, underscored U.S. warnings that the biggest assault on a European state since 1945 could become increasingly attritional after Russia's early failures.

The White House condemned the hospital bombing as a "barbaric use of military force to go after innocent civilians".

Russian had earlier pledged to halt firing so at least some trapped civilians could escape the port city, where hundreds of thousands have been sheltering without water or power for more than a week. Both sides blamed the other for the failure of the evacuation.

"What kind of country is this, the Russian Federation, which is afraid of hospitals, is afraid of maternity hospitals, and destroys them?" Zelenskiy said in a televised address late on Wednesday.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-accuses-russia-genocide-bombing-035409762.html
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:54 am

saxitoxin wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:
thegroover wrote:Meanwhile the "peace keepers" destroy a maternity hospital.

Wheres that W anchors emoji when you need it? :twisted:


Answer THAT, saxi, the Russian Troll


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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby Qwert on Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:55 am

jusplay4fun wrote:This is the side saxi, the Troll of CC and the Pro-Russian voice on CC. Note that his hero is the Butcher of Ukraine, pukin' putin.

They are not winning this war and Ukraine puts up a huge resistance. So he goes to his playbook to try to break the will and determination of the Ukrainian people by attacking civilians and hospitals and other buildings used only by civilians. (Such tactics have been used by invaders and despots many times before. We now define the worst of such actions as possible or actual war crimes.)

I am sure this occurred in Chechnya. There were fewer journalists there and pukin' putin used the cover of "fighting Islamic terrorists" to justify some of his inhumane actions and killing of Islamic civilians. You can see my previous post on this topic.

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Ukraine accuses Russia of genocide after bombing of children's hospital

Wed, March 9, 2022, 10:54 PM
LVIV, Ukraine (Reuters) - Russia's war in Ukraine entered its third week on Thursday with none of its key objectives reached despite thousands of people killed, more than two million made refugees, and thousands forced to cower in besieged cities under relentless bombardment.

Ukrainian forces including citizen-soldiers who only last month never dreamed of firing a weapon in anger were holding out in Kyiv and other frontlines, while Russian troops, tanks and artillery made slow progress from the north, south and east.

Moscow's stated objectives of crushing the Ukrainian military and ousting the pro-Western elected government of President Volodymyr Zelenskiy remained out of reach, with Zelenskiy unshaken and lethal Western military aid pouring across the Polish and Romanian borders.

Western-led sanctions designed to cut the Russian economy and government from international financial markets were beginning to bite, with the Russian sharemarket and rouble plunging and ordinary Russians rushing to hoard cash.

Zelenskiy accused Russia of carrying out genocide after Ukrainian officials said Russian aircraft bombed a children's hospital on Wednesday, burying patients in rubble despite a ceasefire deal for people to flee the besieged city of Mariupol.

The attack, which authorities said injured women in labour and left children in the wreckage, underscored U.S. warnings that the biggest assault on a European state since 1945 could become increasingly attritional after Russia's early failures.

The White House condemned the hospital bombing as a "barbaric use of military force to go after innocent civilians".

Russian had earlier pledged to halt firing so at least some trapped civilians could escape the port city, where hundreds of thousands have been sheltering without water or power for more than a week. Both sides blamed the other for the failure of the evacuation.

"What kind of country is this, the Russian Federation, which is afraid of hospitals, is afraid of maternity hospitals, and destroys them?" Zelenskiy said in a televised address late on Wednesday.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-accuses-russia-genocide-bombing-035409762.html

Do you know how US-Nato coalition in 1999 bombarding of Yugoslavia call strike on civilians? Collateral damage
Nice words when you protect military of any kind of prosecution. Its very symptomatic that Bombarding of civilian areas of Yugoslavia,Iraq,Afghanistan Libya call unintentional killing of civilians by mistakes,,but from other side Russian are intentionally bombard civilians???
I really dont see any different when US bombing hospitals in Yugoslavia and Russian bomb hospital in Ukraine.
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby JdeV 100 on Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:39 am

Qwert wrote:I really dont see any different when US bombing hospitals in Yugoslavia and Russian bomb hospital in Ukraine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bomb ... g%20killed It was way different. Civilians clearly not targeted. Media not under threat of closure, editors not threatened or assassinated. Reasons genuine and well understood around the world. Sorry for your loss.
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby bigtoughralf on Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:10 pm

I mean the only evidence that Russia is deliberately targeting civilians is 'Biden says so',
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby JdeV 100 on Thu Mar 10, 2022 2:38 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:Maybe i just don't understand how 'memoryholing' works.

Take some 90+ year old Soviet agitprop, compare it to any old BS and repurpose it against the west! Nobody is the wiser. Memoryholing. Simples.
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby Qwert on Fri Mar 11, 2022 1:29 am

Marco rubio vs Victoria Nuland ....interesting conversation about bio labs ,,, its these also Russian propaganda?

Also Presidend Of Ukraine sign law for confiscated all russian property,, i dont know how smart are these move during ongoing war? These thing happened mostly in Communist countries but only after end of WWII .
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby ConfederateSS on Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:15 am

bigtoughralf wrote:I mean the only evidence that Russia is deliberately targeting civilians is 'Biden says so',


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------------- The bombs of old...You would drop 1,000s from the sky , carpet bombing...Hit everything...
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby mookiemcgee on Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:02 am

Qwert wrote:Marco rubio vs Victoria Nuland ....interesting conversation about bio labs ,,, its these also Russian propaganda?

Also Presidend Of Ukraine sign law for confiscated all russian property,, i dont know how smart are these move during ongoing war? These thing happened mostly in Communist countries but only after end of WWII .


My high school had a biology lab, its a pretty broad term
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