Blackpool Manor Dinner: Poached Haddock (D2)

[Charle]

So the game has started and I am immediately starting with, so Loose, I fkng told you so, but you probably knew it, what you did not know that you were just going for the worse lynch for scum! But you and Annie might laughing.

Hjelp was the only one that picked up the message in my claim that I am 100% town. This makes both Loose and Annie very suspicious and we need to lynch any of those 2, will be good if we start with Loose though. I cannot vote, but if you are town, vote Loose.

[SoN!c]

It's 6 o'clock Dinner time in England now!

Game is back on! Lots of laughs during the night

PS:@Charle : dinner at 6 AM in the morning??? With loads of Chardonnay??? Lololol

Ladies and gentlemen: i present you the second course by our star chef: Poached haddock and the finest of chardonnay !

The recipe:

• The Smoked Haddock: ultra-fresh, undyed smoked haddock fillets.
• The Poaching Liquid: whole milk, bay leaves, and black peppercorns.
• The Crunch: organic cornflakes (lightly crushed), good butter.
• The Curry Emulsion: mild curry powder, shallots (finely minced), dry white wine, cold unsalted butter (cubed).
• The Eggs: quail eggs for an ultra-fine presentation!

[Loose Canon]

Charle, you didn't claim to be the heir and what's more you said you didn't have a power. Wrong tactically and wrong factually, so your 100% town was meaningless.

[annieh]

Charle, are you somehow saying Heir is a worse lynch for scum than standard House Applicant? Or are you saying Heir is more important than other house roles, including archivist? Neither checks out.

And whoever the secretary is did not know the identity of their patron during soup. Now circle members can collude, but any two-person planned theory makes no sense day 1.

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You all see what I'm saying with the problems with his arguments. While I am not glad to have attempted to boot a house member, him staying around without a vote seems to me like a pretty good outcome. Let's all pass the chardonnay and try to be merry.

Hjelp, did you truly pick up a hint revealing Charle as the heir?

[Loose Canon]

Annie, i am saying heir is worse lynch than std house.
1. Heir can claim heir d1 - oh but charle didnt
2. Heir cant be recruited after initial recruitment - so slows circle down.

[annieh]

So the game has started and I am immediately starting with, so Loose, I fkng told you so, but you probably knew it, what you did not know that you were just going for the worse lynch for scum! But you and Annie might laughing.

Hjelp was the only one that picked up the message in my claim that I am 100% town. This makes both Loose and Annie very suspicious and we need to lynch any of those 2, will be good if we start with Loose though. I cannot vote, but if you are town, vote Loose.

I'm talking about what he said and how it doesn't make sense.

[hjelp]

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Hjelp, did you truly pick up a hint revealing Charle as the heir?

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I'm talking about what he said and how it doesn't make sense.

It did make sence - but I was very careful when I wrote it - not to reveal the heir. but still explicit enough. but no one paid attention.
Now, with that - for the moment my primary suspects - I think that kongming flips circle - and Ragian as circle or Loose as a Circle since pushing hard to lynch Charle though the breadcumb or was it because of the breadcumb? -. and an inventation was accepted and no kill => there are now three circles since there had to be two Circle from the start.

[hjelp]

breadcrumb ...

[katyssis]

i'm feeling very suspicious of loose canon right now

i feel like they have been distracting everyone with fake accusations to make everyone look away from them

[Charle]

for what it is worth, in my claim i mentioned the words House Applicant, and at that stage that is what i was. only hjelp picked that up. Loose did not even see it and therefore i would recommend he should be lynched. I only learned about my heir position when the ticket fell out or something, not at the start of the game.

Annie, a good lynch for scum would be to have the person killed, i am still in the game, confirmed town and count as town to win the game.

so guys, Loose is the one we are looking for and he made Annie the secretary.

[Loose Canon]

Oh Charle, you know I hate those self votes.

Why don't you do something original and make a claim on 1 vote instead?

I did, I told you I am 100% town, no special power, straight forward house applicant. You think different, so I help you to proof that you are wrong!

This settled that Charle is House? unless Charles was House and the pointed secretary pre-start and lost the dealt card i.e. the Secretary slip and knows what to say regarding House member.

And annieh you are so fast - I haven't yet read the last. Thank you. -




So Hjelp this is when you supposedly picked up on Charle s "hint" that he was heir?
Yet a few posts later he becomes one of your prime suspects.
And then you later join in the lynch on Charle.

100% house means nothing, especially followed by no special power, straightforward house applicant.

[Loose Canon]

Apologies I cut Hjelps post in the above.

My response starts at So Hjelp.....

[Ragian]

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Hjelp, did you truly pick up a hint revealing Charle as the heir?

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I'm talking about what he said and how it doesn't make sense.

It did make sence - but I was very careful when I wrote it - not to reveal the heir. but still explicit enough. but no one paid attention.
Now, with that - for the moment my primary suspects - I think that kongming flips circle - and Ragian as circle or Loose as a Circle since pushing hard to lynch Charle though the breadcumb or was it because of the breadcumb? -. and an inventation was accepted and no kill => there are now three circles since there had to be two Circle from the start.

Breadcum *giggles down the wine*

I just want to let it be know, lest people forget, that I accepted the Charle lynch and offered to hammer because, despite the lack of posting from several players, a lynch is better than no lynch (see, we have things to talk about now, accusations fly, and what not). However, my preferred lynch, of the active players yesterday, was hjelp. Feel free to read back.

i'm feeling very suspicious of loose canon right now

i feel like they have been distracting everyone with fake accusations to make everyone look away from them

This is a decent point, but a seasoned player would know that sticking your neck out like Loose is bound to get you in trouble. As of right now, I'd be more inclined to look at the ones just following Loose blindly. Homer springs to mind here. I got the feeling that he basically said that he's follow Loose in whichever way Loose's Canon pointed. Arguably, I did a similar thing, but I do feel that I at least tried to get Loose to commit with talking about D2 hypothetically.

for what it is worth, in my claim i mentioned the words House Applicant, and at that stage that is what i was. only hjelp picked that up. Loose did not even see it and therefore i would recommend he should be lynched. I only learned about my heir position when the ticket fell out or something, not at the start of the game.

Annie, a good lynch for scum would be to have the person killed, i am still in the game, confirmed town and count as town to win the game.

so guys, Loose is the one we are looking for and he made Annie the secretary.

Let me get this straight. Loose didn't see you saying House Applicant (assumption) and therefore he should be lynched. Is that it? Second of all, although Annie has already hinted at this and so have I D1, how would Annie know to go with Loose D1? If she were the Secretary, she would have no idea who the Patron was. Obviously, you could say that she'd want a lynch of whoever given that she's bad, but she could've feared that you were the Patron based on your...ahem...play.

That said, I want more from King and Kong. They're face down in yesterday's soup. Wake them up cattle prod style! If only a farmhand was present... <3

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Also, Son!c, what's the vegan option? *runs for cover*

FP'ed by Loose

[Ragian]

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Hjelp, did you truly pick up a hint revealing Charle as the heir?

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I'm talking about what he said and how it doesn't make sense.

It did make sence - but I was very careful when I wrote it - not to reveal the heir. but still explicit enough. but no one paid attention.
Now, with that - for the moment my primary suspects - I think that kongming flips circle - and Ragian as circle or Loose as a Circle since pushing hard to lynch Charle though the breadcumb or was it because of the breadcumb? -. and an inventation was accepted and no kill => there are now three circles since there had to be two Circle from the start.

@ Ragian

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I don't see the case on Charle other than he was looking for clues at some point. If you force my hand - my voting hand - I'll be voting for hjelp as of right now.

Interesting reaction to what I posted regarding my two now primary suspects - Ragian and Charle.
So if one says, this is my suspect, then immediately one gets that my suspect Ragian wants to vote me for a lynch. That strengthen my suspicioun on you Ragian to be Circle and also The Patron.

Am I reading this correctly as:
- Annie: Hjelp, did you know Charle was the Heir?
- Hjelp: Totes, girlfriend.

It's just because towards the end of the first course, Charle was one of your prime suspects. I could use a little hjelp here, mate.

[hjelp]

I carried on by stating the flip outcome between Charle and kongming. and related Rag and Charle to the drinking glass. The only way to find out regarding kongming is to lynch kongming or Charle - I argued for kongming all the time but that would never been carried out - the only lynch that an agreement could be reached was Charle as I could see. So kongming flips Circle as I see it.

vote kongming

[Loose Canon]

Also while charlegate is progressing, id very much like to hear from devante

Fpd hjelp

[Ragian]

I carried on by stating the flip outcome between Charle and kongming. and related Rag and Charle to the drinking glass. The only way to find out regarding kongming is to lynch kongming or Charle - I argued for kongming all the time but that would never been carried out - the only lynch that an agreement could be reached was Charle as I could see. So kongming flips Circle as I see it.

vote kongming

Smells like scum getting a two for one teddy bear at the fair...

That said, I would reeeeeally like Kong to participate in the game.

[Loose Canon]

Well Hjelp, I would very much like to hear from Kong too.

But Sonic has said Kong was/is not the Patron so I can't join the vote on Kong.

Hjelp you did appear to be all over the place D1 and at face value still are.

Fp'd by Rag - I echo what Rag says

[HottBunnie]

*Bunny looks at her new meal and is excited to dig in as her last feast was cold by the time she got to it on account of people thought kong might actually be in the soup, she digs in a little hesitantly but finds it to be quite good. Listening to the chatter she continues to eat while Devante sits across from her with his hands clasps over his mouth as if to cover a laugh of some sort*
Something funny Dev?
He does not speak…
Would you like to say how you feel about Charle or the possibility of new suspects?
He laughs a bit under his hands but says nothing.
Did you want to explain why you didn’t vote last time.
At this point he looks away at Katyssis and Zulu, they start chatting privately, no one else can hear their conversation….
*Bunny looks around the table and sees a few other conversations going, Charle is speaking so much and has had so much wine he is a bit red on his cheeks, I suppose I would be kinda miffed to if that had happened to me. Bunny thinks half outloud*
Does no one else see whats going on? Devante is just sitting over here laughing at us. Like we had a shot and we blew it on Charle. Would anyone like to help me explore this Devante option? As far as Charle goes its not everyones fault bc Charle never claimed and hjelp jumping on the vote with a known breadcrumb is a little sus but the near immediate take back makes me think there was something more to that post that we missed and an explanation there would be great hjelp. Charle why didnt you claim when you had the chance. Silence is such a bad option when we are running out of time and the votes are coming in. It’s clearly an important role but not as important as a townie getting voted out. I at least feel a little vindicated. I suggested a solid option with strong reasoning, but still no one chose to jump onboard. Well no fear we have the chance again although I suspect it might be a bit harder this go around with 2 additional voices who will expectantly be against. Nonetheless I will hold fast in my resolve especially since I suspect it might be him who took the laudanum.

Vote Devante

[HottBunnie]

Oh and hjelp, Im in agreement with LC here on kong we were basically told Kong is town and for sure told he is not the Patron, he could have been recruited but as he seems the silent type I think I would want at least some suspicious activity before I go this route. Devante suggesting he knows something about the role of people in The future “hello future wives” is a little nonchalant (confident) and his moving about the table looking for recruitment seems to me to say, “Im someone who can recruit people and Im looking for whom those people could be”.. No one else is walking around the table when we are supposed to be eating.

[Devante]

*Bunny looks at her new meal and is excited to dig in as her last feast was cold by the time she got to it on account of people thought kong might actually be in the soup, she digs in a little hesitantly but finds it to be quite good. Listening to the chatter she continues to eat while Devante sits across from her with his hands clasps over his mouth as if to cover a laugh of some sort*
Something funny Dev?
He does not speak…
Would you like to say how you feel about Charle or the possibility of new suspects?
He laughs a bit under his hands but says nothing.
Did you want to explain why you didn’t vote last time.
At this point he looks away at Katyssis and Zulu, they start chatting privately, no one else can hear their conversation….
*Bunny looks around the table and sees a few other conversations going, Charle is speaking so much and has had so much wine he is a bit red on his cheeks, I suppose I would be kinda miffed to if that had happened to me. Bunny thinks half outloud*
Does no one else see whats going on? Devante is just sitting over here laughing at us. Like we had a shot and we blew it on Charle. Would anyone like to help me explore this Devante option? As far as Charle goes its not everyones fault bc Charle never claimed and hjelp jumping on the vote with a known breadcrumb is a little sus but the near immediate take back makes me think there was something more to that post that we missed and an explanation there would be great hjelp. Charle why didnt you claim when you had the chance. Silence is such a bad option when we are running out of time and the votes are coming in. It’s clearly an important role but not as important as a townie getting voted out. I at least feel a little vindicated. I suggested a solid option with strong reasoning, but still no one chose to jump onboard. Well no fear we have the chance again although I suspect it might be a bit harder this go around with 2 additional voices who will expectantly be against. Nonetheless I will hold fast in my resolve especially since I suspect it might be him who took the laudanum.

Vote Devante

Still got a hard on for me I see, very cute little bunny. I did not vote for Charle because I did not think fixating on a 10 min gap in posting was enough to warrant a lynch when we had far more sus players to go off. I explained it here if you care to read back on posts rather then keep steering your fixation:

Catching up now. I'm still leaning with LC being the most town so far and given that will follow the Charle vote if that's how it's going. But I don't think he's scum cause aside from some posts early on, which I can see from both sides, the time thing on posting does not do it for me. And I can't tell if that's just LC being LC zeroing in on something or if he's on to something. But with nothing else to go on I'll follow suit as we need to lynch someone as town needs to hit patron.

I then stated most inclined for me to vote on was kong, hjelp and king. kong because of inactivity and the weird role coming in from sonic, not to mention a assessment he said would provide but never did. hjelp because the back and forth on 2 vs 3 scum in play which is now a mute point since sonic told us there was an invitation accepted. king because of the MIA all game, but now mod killed so also mute. The benefit here at least is that Charle was not scum and the lynch did not lose a townie for us, although yes without a vote but a confirmed town still alive is of benefit regardless.

[Devante]

for what it is worth, in my claim i mentioned the words House Applicant, and at that stage that is what i was. only hjelp picked that up. Loose did not even see it and therefore i would recommend he should be lynched. I only learned about my heir position when the ticket fell out or something, not at the start of the game.

Annie, a good lynch for scum would be to have the person killed, i am still in the game, confirmed town and count as town to win the game.

so guys, Loose is the one we are looking for and he made Annie the secretary.

Charle clarify something for me please, did you not know you were heir from the start or only found out later when you were lynched? I ask cause it's a valid point that you did not make a claim but the self vote would then make sense as you know you'd survive the vote

[Devante]

I carried on by stating the flip outcome between Charle and kongming. and related Rag and Charle to the drinking glass. The only way to find out regarding kongming is to lynch kongming or Charle - I argued for kongming all the time but that would never been carried out - the only lynch that an agreement could be reached was Charle as I could see. So kongming flips Circle as I see it.

vote kongming

This I agree with. Not sure it warrants a vote but some posts or thoughts at this point are needed otherwise it's like having another king in play

[Devante]

Also while charlegate is progressing, id very much like to hear from devante

Fpd hjelp

Fair enough. Posted my thoughts so far. Time is short for me in RL and hunting season just started as well. Barely keeping up with games already missed turns or had to have cover. I'll try to stay active but if things get too hectic might ask Sonic for a replacement so town doesn't suffer

[Loose Canon]

I'm just going to make a point on Charle.

I think the reason why Charle is still present in the game after being mislynched is something to do with the win conditions being slightly different for patron and secretary.

I think there is probably a scenario Sonic envisaged where a later mislynch of Charle might have occurred.
I'm not going to try and work it out because it distracts from getting the patron.
But I think Charle is still present and able to post perhaps almost as an accidental result of Charle not claiming and so getting mislynched earlier than in either a contested claim for heir, or mislynched because it was suspected Charle had claimed heir but was thought nevertheless to be secretary - or something like that which frazzles my poor little solitary braincell.